[CR] "fake" Alex Singer

Example: Racing:Jean Robic

Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:29:06 +0000
From: alex m <alexpianos@yahoo.fr>
To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: [CR] "fake" Alex Singer

Jan seems to think this bike was actually sold by the Singer shop. My initi al idea was that it was a later repaint in the shop of another maker's work as I have seen once (and only once) a frame of appalling quality, but with quite nice Rene Herse paint and hand logos. There is no way the frame coul d have been produced by anyone in the shop (it had nothing Hersish about it anyway), or sold in the first place as an RH, it was the work of an carele ss amateur. The only valid hypothesis for me is a repaint asked for by a go od customer for one of his everyday bikes. The Alex Singer was comparativel y a work of art.

So I assumed the AS was the same. Are other identical bikes known of that w ould prove bikes of this type were actaully sold by Singer?

Jan knows Czuka and has inside information, so I'm sure he knows best what was really going on in the shop at the time.

If the bike was indeed sold from the shop new, then I guess we have to cons ider it as an Alex Singer bike...

There are also bikes that are rumoured to have been made by CNC or outside frame builders (70s 80s I guess) and sold under the Singer name. These bike s are actually rather nice, although the lugwork is not typical Singer, and the parts not as good (not Maxi-Car hubs, no Singer stem...). I believe th ese bikes don't have a serial number.

Were these bikes sent to Singer as frames, and he built them up, and painte d them, or was the complete bike built outide shop (to specs provided by C suka). Ie what was the actual Singer input beyond the decals?

Just trying to work out in what proportion these bikes are Singer producti on/Singer labelled/ Singer designed or whatever.

Alexander March Bordeaux France