To Pete Kneeland and list. I can't believe she slapped you for that. Every time my wife comes in my shop to talk, she moves my Campy NR shifters back and forth. She also likes the Shimano 600 engraved shifters. I made her a key fob out of an old shifter several yrs ago. Her being an arts & crafts person, she appreciates the older parts too! Makes it easier when I want a new old toy! Dickey Greer West Monroe,La USA