Re: [CR] Best Classic Brake Levers from on top of the hoods?

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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:49:23 -0600
From: "Mitch Harris" <mitch.harris@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [CR] Best Classic Brake Levers from on top of the hoods?


Sorry--sign off Mitch Harris Little Rock Canyon, Utah, USA

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Mitch Harris <mitch.harris@gmail.com> wrot e:
> Campagnolo, Modolo, Mavic, and SunTour Superbe non aero all have
> similar feel and power to me and brake well from the hoods. (You can
> read my take on non-aero lever braking power in the archive.)  Mostly
> I've used these with the intended self-branded calipers.  I've used
> the later Campagnolo levers that came with Delta brakes.  I used them
> with Record sidepull calipers and could not tell much difference in
> how powerful they felt used in aero mode compared with N.Record
> non-aero calipers.  P.J.White has noted onlist that the Campagnolo
> levers for Delta had been designed to have about the same mechanical
> advantage as the N.Record levers instead of increased mechanical
> advantage like the Shimano and some other non-aero levers.  I also
> brake from the hoods with Mafac non-aero with similar very good
> results but have only used the Mafac levers with Mafac centerpulls and
> and cantilevers so don't have much direct comparison to the other
> levers since the calipers are different.
>
> As for comfort, the fully hooded mafacs I use have a bit wider body
> than the others which all seem very close in shape, in some cases
> direct copies of each other (SunTour of Campagnolo, Mavics are branded
> Modolos, Modolos are close versions of Campagnolo). Weinman non-aero
> with the white hoods as found on high end centerpull Raleighs are
> similar in shape to the Mafacs. I'm comfortable in the hoods on any of
> these for as many hours as I can ride, but they have a very different
> feel from current STI and Ergo levers so there may not be much
> backward acclimatization in lever comfort.
>
> --Mitch
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:48 PM, scott davis <francopedia@yahoo.com> wrot e:
>>
>> What's the best brake levers for riding the hoods.   I'm not sure if t his is mechanical advantag or not.
>>
>> I just mounted a set of Universal levers.  My calipers are Dia compe w / Scott/Math. brake shoes. They stop great when I'm down on the hooks, but are weak from the top of the hoods.  Any suggestions?
>>
>> Scott Davis in Sunny St. Anthony, Minnesota
>> sdbicyclegarage.com