Re: [CR] Vintage bike Time Trial - how long might it be?

(Example: History:Ted Ernst)

From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com>
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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:48:54 -0700
Subject: Re: [CR] Vintage bike Time Trial - how long might it be?


Yeah, you were lucky, Dale. We could do that but it's just too far and riders wouldn't drive the distance. So we adapted to survive. The police wouldn't stop your riders on road, but probably wondered and Q'd if they saw a line of riders and "officials" doing some sort of organized activity in their bailiwick.
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates
CA USA


----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Brown
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [CR] Vintage bike Time Trial - how long might it be?



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> Ted wrote:
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> << A mile loop plus/minus works better for this type of endeavor. Who moni
> tors running traffic stops, rednecks, etc.? >>
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> Everything Ted says, is true (as usual) but we here in the south we always
> went out in the country (much of which is now suburbia) and did out and
> backs. A timer and a holder at the start, and one person at turnarou
> nd. No stop signs enroute, a few rednecks but nothing we didn't see anyway
> ...Cars had to be watched but this sort of one-up racing was legal on
> the public roads, unlike mass start events. Every once in a while we woul
> d encounter a police officer who was not aware of the law. :)
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> 10 milers were the weekly event distance and 25 milers for bigger events,
> preparing for state & national championships which were always 25 miles.
> Funny... I can remember Mac Canon, Ronnie Hinson, Barney Baxter coming ou
> t to do 10 milers as juniors. I was an adult and they were kids. Now
> those guys are 45+ Masters.
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> Dale Brown
> cycles de ORO Bike Shop
> 1410 Mill Street
> Greensboro, North Carolina 27408 USA
> 336-274-5959
> http://cyclesdeoro.com
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com
> http://www.carolinacup.com
> http://www.greensborovelo.com
> http://www.bikegso.org
> http://nbda.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ternst <ternst1@cox.net>
> To: FujiFish1@aol.com; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org; Dale Brown <oroboyz
> @aol.com>
> Sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 1:41 am
> Subject: Re: [CR] Vintage bike Time Trial - how long might it be?
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> Whether steel or artificial material the=2
> 0distance remains classic 10 and
> 25 mi.
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> We have a series of club race time trials 7 to 10 per year depending on
> weather and open events.
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> They are usually on the last Sunday of each month in the season and when
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> some of our riders need to get the extra miles for the district
> championships, we let the riders do a 20 and then a 25 for those who will
> be
> doing the full distances.
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> This gives the non circuit competitors a chance to test their ability and
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> improvement in their rspective categories and gives all our club members
> a
> chance to get the feel of competition without going big time.
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> Not all folks have time to race and train full time, and with work and
> family many riders will welcome the opportunity to get the feel and enjoy
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> their cycling even more without the whole hog commitment. We have found th
> at
> many of our gals enjoy the lower pressure of the TT's and come out to test
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> themselves instead of being left behind.
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> We usually have two runs, and the group is split so the members help each
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> other with timing, recording, and marshalling, first and second group.
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> Your times should be anywhere from 20 to 35 min. for the 10 and from 50 mi
> n.
> to maybe 1'20" or so for the 25.
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> Points are scored and at the end of our season we have a picnic/banquet wi
> th
> free food for all, door prizes and the awards are given out to the placers
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> in each category.
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> 10 miles is a distance most riders can do
> without being too daunting.
> Juvenile age riders when we have them are distanced at 5mi.
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> The riders that are going for the district distances will start with the
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> first group and the clock will keep going for them as they go the distance
> .
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> Our course is in traffic free warehouse areas about 1mi so the laps are
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> easy to monitor and split times are compared as well as being able to chee
> r
> and encourage our riders to greater effort towrds exalted hyperventilation
> .
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> We are in an urban area, so out and back is difficult .The problem with ou
> t
> and back is keeping an eye on your riders in case of problems and traffic.
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> Flats, spills, exhaustion, cheating, traffic, etc., are things to be
> considered on an out an back.
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> A mile loop plus/minus works better for this type of endeavor. Who monitor
> s
> running traffic stops, rednecks, etc.?
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> Just a few of things to consider to do a nice job for the riders.
>
> Ted Ernst
>
> Palos Verdes Estates
>
> CA USA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dale Brown" <oroboyz@aol.com>
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> To: <FujiFish1@aol.com>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:02 PM
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> Subject: Re: [CR] Vintage bike Time Trial - how long might it be?
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>> Seems like for vintage USA practices, it HAS to be out and back, 10 mile
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>> or 25 miles....
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>> Dale Brown
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>> cycles de ORO Bike Shop
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>> 1410 Mill Street
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>> Greensboro, North Carolina=2
> 027408 USA
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>> 336-274-5959
>
>> http://cyclesdeoro.com
>
>> http://www.classicrendezvous.com
>
>> http://www.carolinacup.com
>
>> http://www.greensborovelo.com
>
>> http://www.bikegso.org
>
>> http://nbda.com
>
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> From: FujiFish1@aol.com
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>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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>> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 11:22 pm
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>> Subject: [CR] Vintage bike Time Trial - how long might it be?
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>> For a vintage road bike, individual time trial event, in say 85 degree
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>> weather (Fahrenheit, of course), on a light to moderately hilly course
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>> hills, not mountains in any way), are there any suggestions as to an
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>> appropriate length of the course? Thanks in advance for the help...
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>> Ciao,
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>> Mark Agree
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>> Southfield MI USA
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