The triathlets that TLC for Bikes helped sponsor around the Dallas area mostly used Tufo tape over glue. Triathlets must change their own flats and the tape is easier than glue to change. The road racers used glue almost exclusively. I think putting on a tubular is never a pain in the butt. It is a skill and after mastering will leave you with a beautiful, clean looking, lighter wheel set. After going to the Olympic Training Center and learning from the mechanics that worked on the Olympians bikes. I found out that installing a tubular was neither difficult or messy. Of course the amount of glue used on a touring and racing wheel set may vary. Most of us also sent our flats to someone else to fix. It is a long process to fix a tubular flat but all things considered riding a tubular in my opinion is still far better than a clincher. In the circles of people looking for performance (road/track racers, triathlons etc.) the number of tubulars is increasing. Long live tubulars.
Gary Smith TLC4Bikes Relaxing after a short but pleasant 30 mile ride Raleigh NC Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
-----Original Message----- From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:24:10 To: <iamnofred@aol.com> Subject: Re: [CR] Servizio Corse Tubulars
Well rim tape was certainly around for many decades before Tufo. Maybe the older tapes were inferior to glue or maybe this was just a widely held misconception. In the US, race officials would test tubulars by trying to push the tire off the rims with their thumbs, maybe the old tapes couldn't pass that test.
Of course, in the 60's and early 70's, there simply weren't any real good lightweight clinchers for racing. So guys would put up with the gigantic pain in the ass of gluing tubulars, not to mention repairing them. Today, with clinchers dominant, I think Tufo or similar products are the only hope of tubulars maintaining any significant market share. The pros may ride tubulars, but they don't have to change their own tires. The general public is simply not going to put up with the inconvenience.
Regards,
Jerry Moos
> From: iamnofred@aol.com <iamnofred@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Servizio Corse Tubulars
> To: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 10:53 PM
> When it comes to using Tufo tape and tubular's I do
> recommend the Tufo tire/tape combo--But I am very couscous
> when using Tufo tape and other than Tufo?brands of tires. I
> will install the tape? (for example)? on Conti, Sprinter or
> Vittoria CX . I will also explain to my customer that Tufo
> does not guarantee that the glue will work on all tires
> (this is stated on the box). I would probably not install
> tape on a on-topic tire. At least not the Extreme version. I
> prefer to glue the older tires.Was Tufo around in 1983 or
> earlier? I am not sure but the current type of double sided?
> tape? used on the wheels today is a very good tape. When I
> first started to glue my race wheels in 1983 I was told that
> glue was the ONLY way to go.?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos
> <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org; marcus.e.helman@gm.com
> Sent: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 2:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [CR] Servizio Corse Tubulars
>
>
>
>
> I always use Tufo tubulars now. D28's if the frame has
> enough clearance,
> otherwise S22. I wish they would make a 24-26 mm tire.
> I've had very good luck
> with Tufo's - haven't had a flat on one yet in the
> couple of years I've been
> using them, but I've been in rural/small town areas
> where there is probably less
> glass and debris on the roads. I rode Vittoria Rallys
> before that and had a lot
> of flats, even on pretty new tires, even though that was on
> rural roads also.
> Many of the flats with the Rallys seemed to be failures
> around the valve stem
> rather rather than glass cuts or punctures in the tread. I
> still have a drawer
> full of Rallys, but I probably won't use them as the
> Tufos just make life
> easier. As I was saying recently, I may try some other
> tubulars with Tufo tape,
> may still have an old Clement Criterium or two around
> somewhere, and I get a
> usable tubular now and then with a bike or a wheelset.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos,
> Big Spring, Texas, USA
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 4/22/09, marcus.e.helman@gm.com
> <marcus.e.helman@gm.com> wrote:
>
> > From: marcus.e.helman@gm.com
> <marcus.e.helman@gm.com>
> > Subject: [CR] Servizio Corse Tubulars
> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 12:41 PM
> > I have a pair on one of my bikes, and have been quite
> > satisfied. They
> > seem well-made, look good, and were a bargain. They
> also
> > hold air pretty
> > well. I only ride cheap tires. Once upon a time when
> I
> > was a kid working
> > at a bike shop and living at home, I rode Clement
> Setas,
> > but that time is
> > long past.
> >
> > I do not get a lot of flats (although every time I
> even
> > think that, I am
> > afraid I'll jinx it). I use a Schwinn floor pump,
> and
> > never inflate my
> > tires to over 100 psi
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Marcus Helman
> > Detroit, MI
> >
> > Greg Arnold wrote:
> >
> >
> > Has anyone ridden the Servizio Corsa tubulars from
> Yellow
> > Jersey?
> > Decent ride? Compared to Tufo 33Pro? I know - they
> are
> > lower end tires,
> > just curious if they have any pundits / fans!
> >
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