Re: [CR] Avocet Question... 1976 and Ti-products

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From: "Emilio Bozzi" <emiliobozzi@hotmail.com>
To: <haxixe@gmail.com>, <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 08:30:13 -0700
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Subject: Re: [CR] Avocet Question... 1976 and Ti-products


Interesting thoughts. To me it seemed that in Avocet hands, Ofmega products were a more respectabel product.

As far as Campy abandoning Ti-products during the 70s while others seemed to be more successful, that discussion has always been a bit of a conumdrum to me.

Didn't OMAS make Ti-axled hubs that went to become OEM on top DeRosa and other pro bikes, albeit for a short while? I pose that as a question since I only have casual knowledge of the topic.

Alternatively, I do have and use without any known trauma to my body or psyche, Campy Ti-axled SR hubs on a Bianchi team bike, an "older" style Campy Ti-track BB fitted to a out of timeline C-record crank, (works great) and some very unique and people say no such thing: Ti-spindled NR pedals.

All of these items have performed masterfully for me through-out the years. Yeah, I know the consensus is that I am riding death traps, the world is going to end, the moon is supposed to be made of cheese, but in my hands these items must never have heard all the bad ju-ju. they work perfectly. Doesn't anybody else ride these parts as well?

If it sounds like I have pummeled in the past by nay-sayers, thats because I have.

Regardless, it would be great to hear if others are riding these types of parts as well. Nels Cone Seattle WA
  
> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 08:04:13 -0700
> From: haxixe@gmail.com
> To: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net
> CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR] Avocet Question... 1976
>
> 2009/5/18 Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>:
>
> >
> > Not all the Avocet designs worked out. There were the Model III hubs, which IIRC were to have had magnesium shells and titanium axles. These were advertised for probably nearly a year, but AFAIK they were never actually sold to the public, although probably prototypes were produced. I would think magnesioum hub flanges might be subject to cracking at the spoke holes, and as we know Campy quickly abandoned an attempt at Ti axles in Super Record hubs, although Zeus successfully incorporated them in their 2000 hubs. I would guess that road testing of protypes may have resulted in enough failures that Avocet/Ofmega thought better of the Model III hubs. Anyone ever actually seen a pair of these hubs, prototypes perhaps?
>
>
> Sounds like vintage vaporware. I've seen nothing in Ofmega's output
> of products- a frankly derivative and conservative collection aside
> from their funky plastic stuff- to suggest they could have hoped to
> pull off anything like a Magnesium-Titanium hubset.
>
> Kurt Sperry
> Bellingham, Washington
> USA