Just in case anyone else was unfamiliar with the word "adventitious"...
(from Merriam-Webster) Main Entry: ad·ven·ti·tious 1 : coming from another source and not inherent or innate <a Federal house without adventitious later additions> 2 : arising or occurring sporadically or in other than the usual location <adventitious roots>
Aldo Ross Middletown, Ohio, USA
----- Original Message Follows -----
From: <gholl@optonline.net>
To: ternst <ternst1@cox.net>
Cc: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: [CR] Pantography
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 17:22:45 +0000
> With some exceptions, e.g. Somec and a few others,
> engraving ("pantography") was subcontracted by the Italian
> vintage bike makers. Notwithstanding, certain standards
> were maintained and, when confronted with an unusual
> engraving it's prudent to question whether it's period or
> not. Reference to known period catalogues or period images
> of the engraving in question will, in most cases, provide
> the answer. That having been said, with the aid of modern
> scanning devices and computerized engraving machines
> almost any engraving can be copied-an image of the
> original is all that's needed, and the engraving can be
> reproduced in a fashion which will defy detection by
> ordinary techniques. The interest in engraving
> ("pantography") in vintage cycling circles is sometimes
> extreme, and , in for some collectors, is an object in
> itself. This is amusing in a way since all engraving is
> adventitious and extraneous to the bike. George
> George Hollenberg MD
> CT, USA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ternst
> Date: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:49 am
> Subject: Re: [CR] Ebay outing, mine: Masi chainring, 1st
> gen SR rear mech, '75 Gazelle and more To: Freek Faro ,
> classic Cc: faro@cistron.nl
>
> > Weren't many of these types of jobs as in many other
> > industries given out to
> > various small home/cottage/job shops?
> > That would account for the minor differences extant in
> > the finished
> > products.
> > All the same but subtly varied.
> > Ted Ernst
> > Palos Verdes Estates
> > CA USA
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Freek Faro"
> > To: "classic"
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 4:57 AM
> > Subject: [CR] Ebay outing, mine: Masi chainring, 1st gen
> > SR rear mech,'75
> > Gazelle and more
> >
> >
> > > Good day all,
> > >
> > > I'm active on Ebay again, auctions will end next
> > Sunday. 6 items are
> > > on-topic.
> > >
> > >
> > > - 1975 Gazelle AA-frame, vanilla gold metallic, 58 c-t
> > ; quite nice, a
> > > lot
> > > of parts are included
> > > - mid 70s Masi pantographed chainring (53 teeth);
> > milled, cut and
> > > pantographed ... and as an expert told me, quite rare
> > in this particular
> > > form
> > > - milled clamp-on Campagnolo gearlevers; added a
> > Campagnolo clamp-on bb
> > > cable guide, for good measure
> > > - mid 70s Cinelli 64 handlebar and old logo stem; nice
> > > condition - mid 70s Cinelli 65 handlebar and old logo
> > stem; double knight crests,
> > > choice of stem lengths
> > >
> > > This is the link:
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://ebay.com/
> > > Item number for the Gazelle frame is 220422485167, my
> > sellers name is
> > > faustobeer.
> > >
> > > The better pcitures are here:
> > >
> > > http://www.wooljersey.com/
> > racefietsen/Ebay+may+2009+1/>
> > > Questions are always welcome, thanks for looking and
> > enjoy bidding! >
> > > Freek Faro
> > > Rotterdam Netherlands
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