Re: [CR] snide comments online on the CR & Bob list

(Example: Framebuilders:Dario Pegoretti)

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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 07:37:47 -0400
From: Mark Pounders <markpounders@gmail.com>
To: Peter Koskinen <prkbikes1@mac.com>
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] snide comments online on the CR & Bob list


Peter:

I'm going to take the high road on this one, like I did with you before and will continue to do.

I've been praying that you would lay low and stay out of this. I know you called me out on this one, but I still can't believe it! By choosing to call me out, you force me to have to authenticate the comments attributed to you, which is something I was not going to do. Why couldn't you just let someone play their silly little off-topic joke and ignore it?

You, dissapointed in me? What others choose to do with the information I share them is not my business. You have not seen me play any part in the "outing", yet once again you choose to come after me. I did share your "jew" comment and your additional comment that CR listers were "bottom feeders" with three folks who I trusted would read it and heed it. Apparently, at least one, if not all of them felt your comments and actions were worthy of sharing with everyone else. That was not my call. I don't know who shared it and I don't really care.

My advice to you would simply be to keep stereotypes out of the conversation and be careful not to bite the hand that feeds you. It's called bigotry. We CR listers may be "bottom feeders" to you, but I notice you never miss an opportunity to be around us when we congregate. That's called hipocrasy. Neither are very desirable characteristics.

You have made it abundantly clear to me that you now despise me as much as most of the CR listers who come to you looking for parts or service, and for what? Because we like to get a good deal. You don't know how sorry I am that I ever asked you. If I could go back and do it again, I would never have contacted you and we would all be the better for it.

Yes, I was offended at your "jew" comment and yes, I was offended that you referred to all of us as "bottom feeders". It was insensitive, unwarranted and cruel. But Peter, you have to be prepared to accept responsibility for your own actions and quit trying to blame others. You will be much happier in the long run and you will feel better about yourself and others about you. Let it go man, move on. If you really believe we are all "bottom feeders", there should be plenty of richer clients you can hang out with who don't care.

As for me, I'm sticking with this bunch as long as I am allowed. I have had the priviledge of meeting some of the nicest folks on the planet and I am all the better for it. I think you can look at this as learning a valuable lesson here and move on, we are an accepting group and I sure most everyone will be willing to forgive and forget. Or you can choose to wallow in this negativity you currently have and continue to loose opportunities to work with CR listers like myself. It's obviously your choice.

I'm praying again that you make the choice that's best for you because either way, it'll be the best for us.

Peace,

Mark Pounders On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Peter Koskinen <prkbikes1@mac.com> wrote:
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> --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Saul Levin <bunny.oswaldo@gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: Saul Levin <bunny.oswaldo@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BOB] Noun or Verb, Peter Koskinen
> To: "Astrid Levensen-Gould" <vincentvega57@gmail.com>
> Cc: Internet-bob@bikelist.org
> Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 3:59 PM
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> This might be the answer for which you search:
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> *I won't stoop to your level of trying to jew somebody down...*
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> Well Mark,
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> This came to me from other sources. I see that since you weren't happy with
> how our dealings came to an end you decided to take it to a higher level in
> the public of the cycling hobbiest forums.
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> Outing me as a recipient for a Jewish American Humnaitarian Award was
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> It shows what truely bad taste you have....
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> Maybe in the future you should keep your negitive thoughts to yourself
> instead of spreading them on the world wide web...
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> I am really disapointed in you ....
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> Cheers,
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> Peter
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