Re: [CR] "C" pantographed on the fork crown shoulder

(Example: Framebuilders:Jack Taylor)

Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:19:11 -0700
From: "Dan Kehew" <dan.kehew@gmail.com>
To: Matteo <bees.bfg@tin.it>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR] "C" pantographed on the fork crown shoulder


Matteo put me back on track regarding the earlier posting that inquired on "C" pantographed on a fork:

http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=classicrendezvous.10906.0842.eml

Michael Schmid was asking for ID on a decal-free frameset with a fork shoulder pictured here (from German eBay):

http://i.ebayimg.com/22/!BUgTr-QBGk~$(KGrHgoH-CgEjlLl1-OzBKN4LL8hZw~~_1.JPG

Michael's quote: "Seller suspects it could be a Chesini, which it is not. I have never seen a Chesini with this panto on the fork. It could be a Chiorda, since they used a identical design of the BB-shell. Cann anybody here identify the marque which used this C in a crest as pictured."

That's what I had in mind when spotting the C in a crest on the shoulder of Maaslandissimo's Cozzi:

http://fotoalbum.virgilio.it/maasland/bikesforsale/p1030665.html

But the mystery frame on German eBay seems to have the shield/crest engraved as an outline, and the Cozzi as a field -- and the "C" appears to be a different font.

I noted the Casati marque circa 1980s also differs. Here's a shot of that:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclesalvation/230647321/in/set-72157603271175225/

In short, I've got no answer for Herr Schmid.

Dan Kehew Davis, California USA

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Dan Kehew<dan.kehew@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe Casati, but by the 1980's Casatis had a "C" in a triangle
> (pointing down, with the sides of the triangle having a gentle inward
> arc). Spent a bunch of time looking down at the fork crown of a 1983
> Gold Line, my first real road bike. Anyone know of a change in Casati
> logos during the 70's or early 80's, with a shield shape used earlier?
>
> Dan Kehew
> Davis, California USA
>
> On 6/26/09, Matteo <bees.bfg@tin.it> wrote:
>> I think that the C in the fork crown was referrin to CASATI.Cheers
>>
>> T.B.F.I.(Beta version of Brooklyn Velodrome type sign-off)
>>
>
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