I have not posted in a long time but...given recent goings-on on the list I love the whole thing! Edward Albert Chappaqua, New York, U.S.A.
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:32 AM, aldoross4 <aldoross4@siscom.net> wrote:
> I especially love how its disguised as a "Re: [CR]..."
> message, like this was already a CR message topic!
>
> Aldo Ross
> Middletown, Ohio, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message Follows -----
> From: Vladislav Luskin <vladluskin@yahoo.com>
> To: "prkbikes1@mac.com" <prkbikes1@mac.com>
> Cc: "earle.young@tds.net" <earle.young@tds.net>,
> "heine94@earthlink.net" <heine94@earthlink.net>,
> "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org"
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR] $$$ for flatted tire
> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:29:05 -0700
>
> > Ha-ha-ha-ha!
> > Take this one to judge Judy. I don't think CR can
> > arbitrate a dispute of such global proportions.
> >
> > Vlad Luskin
> > NY, NY
> >
> > P.S. Is the tire on topic?
> >
> > Peter Koskinen wrote:
> > > Jan,
> > > I didn't look at the bike carefully enough obviously
> > when you returned it. I suspect that your damage to the
> > frame occurred when you leaned the bike up against
> > > something and it rolled forward. The bottom line here is
> > that you owe me for a Veloflex Carbon tire which you
> > flatted under your care regardless of its age, condition
> > when you accepted the loan. This isn't the magazine
> > business where you may accept 'gifts' from manufacturers
> > to test and do with what you may. This was my personal
> > > bike. Had i known that this is the way that you act when
> > the world doesn't go your way, I would have never loaned
> > you a bike or anything else without a 15 page fine print
> > contract so that you can weasel out later because you
> > don't want to pay for the damage that you did. Since you
> > sent it along to Wayne Bingham (who never belonged in the
> > middle of the dispute anyway, an attempt by yourself to
> > shame me into accepting your paltry offering), I'm upping
> > > the ante. Let the world decide who is correct here.
> > > PETER REID KOSKINEN OWNER
> > > PRKBIKES LLC
> > > CHAPEL HILL, NC, 27516,USA
> > > H/O 919-960-5871
> > > C. 410-991-7539
> > > prkbikes@bellsouth.net
> > > peter@prkbikes.com
> > > http://www.prkbikes.com
> > > On Aug 10, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Jan Heine wrote:
> > >> Peter,
> > >>
> > >> I had hoped we could settle on a reasonable value for
> > that tire, which was old and cracked and probably leaking
> > before I started the ride. (The rear tire had lost almost
> > no air overnight, the front was completely flat, when I
> > pumped up the tires in the morning. I had to pump it up 5
> > miles from the start, and then several times before I
> > finally put on the replacement tire.) >>
> > >> When one borrows and loans a bike or car, it is a
> > matter of trust on both sides. If I lend you my car with a
> > slipping clutch, and you burn it out on the first hill, it
> > isn't quite fair to ask you to pay for the clutch, which
> > was shot before you left. Similarly, I don't think it is
> > fair to ask me to pay for a new tubular when the tire
> > mounted on your bike was old and cracked and leaking from
> > the start. >>
> > >> In a disagreement like this, it is common to have the
> > parts inspected by a third party. I would suggest Wayne
> > Bingham, the Cirque organizer, who could estimate the
> > value of that old tubular. Unfortunately, you threw that
> > old tire in the garbage BEFORE you even told me you wanted
> > money for it. However, even you have acknowledged that the
> > tread was cracked... It was an old tire that had no life
> > left. >>
> > >> As a gesture of goodwill, I am sending you $ 30 for the
> > old, cracked tubular, which was leaking before I started
> > the ride. I hope that this will conclude this matter to
> > everybody's satisfaction. >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >>
> > >> Jan
> > >>
> > >> At 4:31 PM -0400 8/10/09, Peter Koskinen wrote:
> > >>> Jan,
> > >>>
> > >>> Its been several months now and i have yet to see the
> > payment for the tire you flatted. I am sure that you have
> > a very good excuse (in your mind) as to why you haven't
> > paid for the tire you flatted. >>>
> > >>> The bottom line here is that when you borrow a bike, a
> > car, or anything else from some one and you do some form
> > of damage to it, it is YOUR responsibility to take care of
> > the damage. In this case it was a punctured high quality
> > racing tubular. >>>
> > >>> Your dealings with Earle have no bearing on your debt
> > to me. >>>
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>>
> > >>> Peter
> > >>> PETER REID KOSKINEN
> > >>> OWNER
> > >>> PRKBIKES LLC
> > >>> 9506 Collins Creek Drive
> > >>> Chapel Hill, NC, 27516
> > >>> prkbikes@bellsouth.net
> > >>> peter@prkbikes.com
> > >>> http://www.prkbikes.com
> > >>> home/office: 1-919-960-5871
> > >>> cell: 1-410-991-7539
> > >>
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