Re: [CR] Tubular repair in 15 minutes? - Was: ... Re Re: $$$ for flatted tire

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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:37:26 -0400
From: "Ken Freeman" <kenfreeman096@gmail.com>
To: Mark Pounders <markpounders@gmail.com>
Cc: FujiFish1@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Tubular repair in 15 minutes? - Was: ... Re Re: $$$ for flatted tire


Mark, I had the same reaction as did Mark Agree, but I can see where your tips would save time. I generally (haven't done one for maybe 5 years) took 45 minutes or so. But so doing, it's right teh first time.

Thank you!

Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Mark Pounders <markpounders@gmail.com>wrote:
> Mark:
>
> Yes. But I should have prefaced it by saying that it took alot of practice.
> There are a few keys. Although I've never had trouble locating the
> puncture,
> this may be where you're spending more time than I am. Never remove the
> base
> tape (as you said), this may be adding to your bulkiness, just peel a
> little
> of it back. Invest in a seam ripper. It kind of hard to explain what it
> looks like, but if you go to any sewing shop, they can sell you one (or
> two). The seam ripper takes alot of the guesswork out of actually cutting
> the thread underneath the base tape and reduces your cut time. Only cut the
> start and end of what you want to remove as it is easier to pull it out as
> one piece. NEVER remove more than you need to get the tube out (an inch is
> usually fine). If you have to do a casing repair, this will add time, but
> for a simple puncture, I use SLIME on the inside (not much). Reuse the
> exact
> same holes to re-stitch the casing and glue down loose ends with latex.
> Also
> use latex on the base tape.
>
> For those who can't stomach this repair, I have snipped the end off of the
> presta valve and slimed a tubular (look at
> http://commutebybike.com/2006/11/12/how-to-slime-presta-valve-tubes/ for
> the
> best instructions). This doesn't take long at all, but don't lose the pin
> inside or you're screwed!
>
> Sure, depending upon how severe it is, it can take as long as you like,
> just
> be thorough. I don't do this for a living, so don't send me your tubulars
> unless you're getting rid of them. I don't even like doing it for mine, but
> invest a little bit of time in the next one you blow out or practice on an
> old one that you've already blown out. Better yet, if you don't mind
> spending the money, just go buy a new one. Mike Schmidt (who is a great
> guy,
> I might add) gave the location a few postings back of a place that will
> repair them for you for 20 bucks and I can garuantee you they're not
> spending hours on each one.
>
> Invest a little time and each time it will be a little easier. When you own
> and operate these vintage bikes, there's no simple way to do anything, so
> reward yourself by doing it right.
>
> Peace,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:42 PM, <FujiFish1@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > 15 minutes??!!?? It took me hours the couple of times I tried, and the
> > sewn up results were bulky and misshapen. Can you really can find a leak
> > area, remove base tape, unstitch affected area, locate exact leak, clean
> and
> > repair, properly re-stitch and re-apply base tape in fifteen minutes?
> I'll
> > send ALL my tubulars to you for repair ... what is you rate per hour,
> > please? :)
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Mark Agree
> > Southfield MI USA
> > ~ ~ ~
> >
> >
> > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:26:33 -0400
> > From: Mark Pounders <markpounders@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CR] Re Re Re ... Re Re ... Re Re: $$$ for flatted tire
> > To: Amir Avitzur <walawalaoxenfree@gmail.com>
> > Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >
> > Amir:
> >
> > You're not missing anything, you're just frugal like most of us. Why
> spend
> > $60+ on a new tubular when you can spend 15 minutes and a 25 cent patch
> to
> > repair it?
> >
> > Peace,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Amir Avitzur <
> walawalaoxenfree@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Jan & Peter & the CR Public:
> > >
> > > Frankly, I was shocked and appalled !!!
> > >
> > > A friend of mine asked what I needed so many old stock Tip-Top patch
> kit
> > > tins ...
> > > in his opinion ... NO-ONE fixes tubes any more.
> > > (see
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
> > > )
> > >
> > > Can this be true ????
> > >
> > > Am I missing something ?
> > >
> > > Is Peter onto something?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Amir Avitzur
> > > feeling so out-of-it in Ramat-Gan, Israel
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Mark Pounders
> Richmond, Virginia
> USA