Re: [CR] 7-Eleven Huffys - (Ed Granger)

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From: "TOM JELMYER" <tightspoke@hotmail.com>
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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 01:09:56 +0000
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Subject: Re: [CR] 7-Eleven Huffys - (Ed Granger)


As an owner of a couple Huffy team frames a 7-11 from 1987 and a team Crest one from 1988. The 88 is Serotta concept tubing lugged and fillet brazed construction. The 87 is a full lugged frame with true temper tubing still in one piece. The word I got from Serotta was that the riders requested lighter frames in 87 so they used lighter tubing on them with some mixed results, you've heard about the problems. That was why some riders like Roll and Hampsten got their bikes from other builders. Andy was for sure riding a Landshark in the 88 giro. Not sure when Bob got his DeRosa. The tubing in 88 was designed to solve those problems I believe that's were the colorado concept tubing name came from.

Thomas Jelmyer
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 16:29:14 -0700
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> Subject: Re: [CR] 7-Eleven Huffys - (Ed Granger)
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> Roger may have been referring only to the track bikes. Even so, I don't think Roger has ever been "out of the loop"....
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> Stephan Andranian
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> From: edvintage63@aol.com <edvintage63@aol.com>
> Subject: [CR] 7-Eleven Huffys - resend (Ed Granger)
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 7:20 AM
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> Sorry for the repeat - apparently the original fell victim to some bad formatting ...
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> I may have overstated the connection between the problems with the True Temper tubing and riders seeking alternative frames in my previous post on the 7-Eleven team bikes. However, those problems are pretty well established: Ben Serotta describes multiple frame failures, and Ron Keifel relates an incident in Italy where he finished a descent with his frame barely in one piece. There's more in the original article here:
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> Ed Granger
> Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA
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> "So I too sought to get to the bottom of this, and asked Roger Young, who ro
> de on the track and on the road for 7-11. Here is his response regarding th> e construction of the Murray and Huffy bikes:
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> "We never had trouble with the True Temper tubing, though we did find some > experimental designs did not endure well, but with corrections we never had > problems in competition and no one had a mishap that caused any injury. > I did ride the bikes and never had any trouble at all myself."
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> Stephan Andranian
> Costa Mesa, California USA"
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