Re: [CR] Can you help me identify this frame -- Hetchins or One-off?

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From: "kevin sayles" <kevinsayles@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <brianbaylis@juno.com>, <oroboyz@aol.com>
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 09:25:22 +0100
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Subject: Re: [CR] Can you help me identify this frame -- Hetchins or One-off?


Dale, Brian..........think your right, definately not a Hetchins......I reckon it was built mid 70s going by the drastic cut away lug work, that style of seat lug reminds me of something, but can't remember what.

Trying to think of a builder with the name 'R W'..........

Cheers Kevin Sayles
Bridgwater Somerset UK


--- Original Message -----
From: brianbaylis@juno.com
To: oroboyz@aol.com
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Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [CR] Can you help me identify this frame -- Hetchins or


One-off?


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> Dale,
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> No question in my mind it is NOT a Hetchins. I would also say that the
> builder had not much "skill" beyond the ordinary, at best. Pretty good
> chance the maker will never be known. But for certain it is not a
> Hetchins.
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> Brian Baylis
> La Mesa, CA
> USA
> I know what a Hetchin's looks like; and that ain't it.
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> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: <oroboyz@aol.com>
> To: <rfcopple@cox.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Can you help me identify this frame -- Hetchins or
> One-off?
> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 22:17:25 -0400
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> Well, in my opinion, that is not a Hetchins... So many things are
> dissimilar; I would say that is an energetic hobbyists effort. The radius
> of the curly stays are different, ditto for the fast back seat stay style.
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> Dale
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> Dale Brown
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> Greensboro, North Carolina USA
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert F. Copple <rfcopple@cox.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 9:01 pm
> Subject: [CR] Can you help me identify this frame -- Hetchins or One-off?
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> This is my first post to this list. I am somewhat of a classic / vintage
> bike collector. Last week, I picked up a frame that has me perplexed. It
> clearly has Hetchins characteristics, including curvy stays and ornate
> lugs,
> however, I have not been able to identify it from the historic site.
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> For background, it came equipped with some Pat. 73 Campy Record and has
> Italian threading. Could this be an Italia?
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> Do you think this is a Hetchins or a one-off by a frame builder who
> obviously had some skill?
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> I appreciate your taking a look at the photos.
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> Best Regards,
>
> Robert F. Copple
> Scottsdale, Arizona
> USA
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> http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/RCopple/IMG_0015-1.jpg
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> http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/RCopple/IMG_0017.jpg
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> http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/RCopple/IMG_0019.jpg
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> http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/RCopple/IMG_0020.jpg
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> http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/RCopple/IMG_0025.jpg
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> http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/RCopple/IMG_0029.jpg
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> http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/RCopple/IMG_0032.jpg
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> http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/RCopple/IMG_0038.jpg