Just a little post today.
As I was putting in 50 mi in today along the coast route on my 80 McLean I cruised up to this young lady (Early 30's) and low and behold she was riding a 51 cm Blue 72' Masi GC, and at good pace too.
See guys there is hope for the future!
California Dreamin
Jack
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> 1. Re: Old Phillips - corrected link (Bob Hillery)
> 2. Eurobike: Eddy Merckx booth with fantastic Retro Bike
> (Jan Heine)
> 3. Eurobike: Eddy Merckx booth with fantastic Retro (Grant McLean)
> 4. Re: 4K colnago on ebay (Charles Andrews)
> 5. Re: Eddy Merckx and Universal sidepulls (Ed Granger) and the
> Eurobike Merckx (Hilary Stone)
> 6. Supposed Merckx De Rosa on English Ebay (Hilary Stone)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 18:10:37 +0000
> From: Bob Hillery <rhillery@hawksi.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Old Phillips - corrected link
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> Corrected flickr link:
> http://www.flickr.com/
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> ooops.
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> Bob Hillery
> Stratham, NH, USA
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 11:15:56 -0700
> From: Jan Heine <heine94@earthlink.net>
> Subject: [CR] Eurobike: Eddy Merckx booth with fantastic Retro Bike
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>>On page 70 of the relatively new book, Campagnolo - 75 Years of
>>Cycling Passion (Velo Press), Alberto Masi is quoted:
>
>> >> So Adorni, who was with Molteni like Eddy, found out and wanted
>>to use them ...
>>
>>Alberto's memory's spotty, or he was mis-quoted... Adorni and Eddy
>>were with Faema in '68. Adorni left for Scic in 1969, Merckx went
>>with Molteni in 1971.
>
> Don't blame Alberto Masi. The book "Campagnolo - 75 Years of Cycling
> Passion" is full of errors, poor research, quotes taken out of
> context, omissions and worse. Whatever happened to fact checking by
> the publishers (or authors)? Campagnolo deserves better than such a
> half-hearted effort!
>
> Jan Heine
> Editor
> Bicycle Quarterly
> 140 Lakeside Ave #C
> Seattle WA 98122
> http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:15:24 -0400
> From: Grant McLean <grant.mclean@sympatico.ca>
> Subject: [CR] Eurobike: Eddy Merckx booth with fantastic Retro
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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> All this great discussion about Eddy's brakes had me looking closely
> at the photo from Eurobike,
> and I noticed the water bottle cage on the down tube has brazed-on
> mounts.
> Unusual for a frame with otherwise only a chainstay cable stop?
>
> merckx:
> http://www.flickr.com/
>
> Faema strap on cage:
> http://www.vittorioadorni.com/
> 101518/4_VittorioAdorni__101529.jpg
>
> Some more poking around on Flickr turned up a nice little orange 2010
> Merckx model:
> http://www.flickr.com/
> set-72157622242808720/
>
> Grant McLean
> toronto, canada
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 11:19:54 -0700
> From: Charles Andrews <chasds@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] 4K colnago on ebay
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> I spotted this a week ago, and put in a relatively low snipe-bid on the off
> chance no-one was paying attention ;> I was left in the dust.
>
> Seems to me there are a few reasons this bike went so high, chief among them
> that is is now virtually impossible to find the pantografata model in clean,
> original condition with all the original parts--and from the original buyer!
> That's big. Plus, this was an older one, with cutouts in all the lugs. No
> divots in the crown though.
>
> You find some with some parts, but almost never with all of them, untouched,
> and relatively unused. Sure, they're around, witness this one, but not
> many, and hardly ever for sale.
>
> I thought the price was a bit high considering the paint and graphics flaws,
> but not all *that* much too high. Bikes like that one are so seldom seen
> for sale it's tough to even establish a consistent market price for one.
> That said, if the current price for a totally original and low-miles sample
> is between 4 and 5K, that doesn't seem too outlandish to me. There were
> only so many of these sold, they are an icon of sorts, of that time.
>
> Perhaps more of them will emerge...the original owners, or second owners,
> would be getting to the point of down-sizing, perhaps.
>
> What that bike does demonstrate is the potential value of complete,
> original, relatively clean top-end bikes with a reputation. Just as with
> any other collectible...it's condition, condition, condition...and specific
> details...and, often, certain intangibles that can be tricky to describe. I
> liked the fact that the bike was not just totally original, but that it
> looked like it had been mostly taken-care-of (the graphics flaw on the,
> what? Left side? was sad, though)..it was just enough of a clean
> time-capsule bike to be quite appealing.
>
> Charles Andrews
> Los Angeles
>
>
> "everyone has elites; the important thing is
> to change them from time to time."
>
> --Joseph Schumpeter, via Simon Johnson
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:31:22 +0100
> From: Hilary Stone <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Eddy Merckx and Universal sidepulls (Ed Granger) and
> the Eurobike Merckx
> To: <edvintage63@aol.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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> I rather rushed this posting last night and have revisited the books and
> mags - going through pics in International Cycle Sport mainly. In the
> Tour of Flanders he was using Universal 61 centre-pulls and in the
> Paris-Roubaix his brakes appears to be the Super 68 and by the World
> Champs and the Lugano Time Trial in October 1968 he was using the new
> Campy side-pulls. There's an interesting interview in the Jan 69 issue
> of ICS with Faliero Masi - in it he shows John Wilcockson Merckx's
> Lugano TT frame with Campy side-pulls and also the bike that Merckx had
> won the Tour of Lombardy on also complete with Campy side-pull brakes.
> Interestingly Masi shows him a picture of Adorni wining the World Champs
> (1968) on a Masi and mentions that the Masis now made for Adorni and
> Merckx have three slits in the BB shell, something made possible by
> Campag's BB sleeve. In the photos from the World Champs and the Lugano
> TT the BB slits are clearly visible.
>
> What is more important though is that the frames used by Merckx then
> appear to be very similar to the one on display at Eurobike save for the
> head lugs - in particular the fork crown is a Fischer flat 4pt one not
> used as far as I know by De Rosa or Colnago at this time... and
> certainly used by Masi. Could the Eurobike bike be one of the earlier
> season bikes - perhaps the Tour of Flanders bike with later decals and
> stem - both would add credence to the Merckx brand... In the big picture
> the yellow seat tube decals can clearly be seen to have been stuck over
> what looks like World Championship bands...
>
> Finally I am not sure how I came to the conclusion that I had seen
> Merckx on Merckx decalled bikes in 1968 - I think originally looking at
> 40 or 50 pictures some of which were undated (of course in the books,
> not ICS) must have confused my brain! And of course did not ride the 69 TDF.
>
>
> Hilary Stone, Bristol, British Isles
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hilary Stone wrote:
>> I have just been looking at Merckx pics in various books and mags - he
>> was certainly using Universals for the Paris-Roubaix but by the TDF he
>> appears to be using Campag. And some of his bikes are decalled Faema and
>> some Merckx. I've also found the Rebour drawings for his 1969 TDF
>> winning bike in International Cycle Sport where it states that his frame
>> was built by Kessels...
>>
>>
>> Hilary Stone, Bristol, British Isles
>>
>> edvintage63@aol.com wrote:
>>> "Hilary wrote:
>>>
>>> I do wonder whether Merckx was using the new Campy side-pulls
>>> throughout 1968 - I was under the impression that these were
>>> introduced quite late on in 1968... Certainly my De Rosa is full
>>> Campag save for the Universal 68 brakes."
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe the Campagnolo sidepulls were indeed introduced at the end
>>> of 1968, certainly not much earlier than the World Championships.
>>> Earlier that season, I believe Merckx (and of course many other riders
>>> on Italian bikes and teams) were using the Universal 68's. This seems
>>> to be the case from photos of Merckx from the first part of that
>>> season, including pics from the Giro. In fact, photos also show
>>> sidepulls on Merckx's bike at the '67 Worlds, when he was riding for
>>> Peugeot. There are other photos from the 60's that show Universal
>>> sidepulls, but it's difficult to determine whether those are 68's
>>> (maybe available to pros prior to '68) or earlier model Universal
>>> sidepulls that had simply found favor with some pro riders even after
>>> the introduction of the 61's.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ed Granger
>>>
>>> Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:36:53 +0100
> From: Hilary Stone <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
> Subject: [CR] Supposed Merckx De Rosa on English Ebay
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> Just recently what purports to be Merckx De Rosa bike has been listed on
> English Ebay - item number 160359704131 Its obviously rather late to be
> a Molteni Merckx De Rosa - the dropouts are Campy Portacatena though
> they do appear to be finished in the De Rosa style. However the lugs -
> in particular the head lugs don't look De Rosa to me... I'd be
> interested to hear what other CR members who have seen many more De
> Rosas than I have think...
>
>
> Hilary Stone, Bristol, British Isles
>
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