Scott, I'm still waiting for a hub to try out, having being informed I can have one as a test sample......maybe I will know more when I visit the Sun race stand at the forthcoming London show.
As for the Pashley bike.......can't believe they are intending to market it without a front brake!! There's a young lad riding around town without a front brake on his fixed bike.......not that I want him to hurt himself badly....but I'd love to see him bring his bike into our shop with the front end caved in after he's ran into the back of a car!!
Cheers Kevin Sayles
Bridgwater Somerset UK
From: "Scott L. Minneman" <minneman@onomy.com> To: <joeb-z@comcast.net>; "'cmontgomery'" <cmontgomery15@cox.net> Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [CR] More "retro" at Interbike Show. Now Sturmey pulley location
> I've never ridden a hub-geared bike up with the low cable routing, but if
> it does contribute, in any way, to some sort of automatic shifting, it
> would be downright dangerous on one of these 3-speed fixed bikes, running
> without brakes. You know you can't make this kind of hub without a small
> dead zone between gears, and I'd certainly hate to encounter it by
> accident (so to speak).
>
> That said, the geometry of frame deformations isn't pointing me to a
> reason why pedaling loads would produce much change in effective cable
> length...but I do have some worry about heel strikes.
>
> Anybody ridden an S3X hub yet? Reports, please. How's the backlash?
> How's the sound? How's the dead zone? How's the finish? Pricing?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Scott Minneman
> San Francisco, CA USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of
> joeb-z@comcast.net
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 1:43 PM
> To: cmontgomery
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR] More "retro" at Interbike Show. Now Sturmey pulley
> location
>
>
>
> This small movement of the cable with the BB pulley is a very real reason
> to prefer the upper routing in my experience. The adjustment is touchy
> enough and the consequences harsh on rider and machine.
>
>
>
> Joe Bender-Zanoni
>
> Whitneyville, CT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cmontgomery" <cmontgomery15@cox.net>
> To: "Dmitry Yaitskov" <dima@rogers.com>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:50:19 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
> Eastern
> Subject: Re: [CR] More "retro" at Interbike Show.
>
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thursday, September 24, 2009, 10:04:29 AM, oroboyz@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> >
> http://www.bikerumor.com/
>>
>> > Sorta gets me that folks think these features are "new"
>> > ?But neat that more people are sharing the vision we have
>> > celebrated for quite-a-while-now....
>
>
>
>> Dmitry Yaitskov:
>
>> But a nice bike... I tried such cable routing on my Hetchins with SA
>> FM gear - and it worked fine BUT I kept hitting the cable with my
>> right heel, and had to re-route along the top tube (also not optimal
>> because to avoid rubbing the curly stays the pulley needs to be rather
>> low on the seat tube).
>> Toronto, Canada.
>
>
> I don't know the origins of the tradition, but the many photos I've seen
> of
> club machines have the cable routing along the top tube also. I originally
> mounted down, but found when really cranking up a hill (yes, in the
> saddle)
> that bottom bracket movement could change the tension on the cable and
> wham
> (yes, still in the saddle thank goodness) you're outta gear (and outta
> luck
> if you're outta the saddle). At least that's my theory.
>
> Craig Montgomery
> Tucson