Re: [CR] Behringer praise and TA crank bolts WTB

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From: "Scott L. Minneman" <minneman@onomy.com>
To: 'George Allen' <jgallen@lexairinc.com>, 'classicrendezvous' <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <4ABD16F7.7080806@lexairinc.com>
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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:48:26 -0700
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Subject: Re: [CR] Behringer praise and TA crank bolts WTB


I had a snipe bid in on that Cecil Behringer bike, just in case it didn't get to the price level where George snagged it. I saw a bunch of contradictions in the auction listing, and the owner wasn't able/willing to clear them up with either answers or better photos...so my bid was predicated on the worst-case scenario, given my current finances. It sounds like most of those issues turned out to have the best possible outcomes (like those being early SR levers paired with flat-blade NR calipers, what some of the unlisted components turned out to be, and the dates of the overall component collection (although it would've been nice if the rear derailleur was really an early SR, like he claimed)).

The open-end dropout joints do seem to be a signature of Behringer frames, and a very tasty one (as long as the bike is stored wisely), if you ask me. I'm glad this bike ended up with somebody on the list, although when I first started watching it, I was hoping that it wouldn't be "outed" here and I'd get it for a song.

Congratulations, George! Let's see some good pictures when you get a chance.

Cheers,

Scott Minneman San Francisco, CA USA

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of George Allen Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 12:16 PM To: classicrendezvous Subject: [CR] Behringer praise and TA crank bolts WTB

First off, I just unpacked the Cecil Behringer frame I recently purchased on Ebay. It has some funky parts like the Pino QR skewers and bottom bracket, the "Bologna?" headset, Barelli pedals, Hi-E hubs and custom, no-name seatpost. The frame itself is exquisite. I was having some buyer's remorse until about 30 minutes ago and now I'm so glad I bit the bullet. I do have a question about one weird feature: the chain and seat stays are scalloped nicely where they are brazed to the drop-outs but they are not plugged. The stays are hollow at the ends and show some rust. I will hit those areas with Frame Saver but, long-term, will they be alright? Also, was it common to finish the stays like that. Is that a signature of Beringer? It was advertised as a 1979 but all the components save for the front caliper speak to an earlier date. The NOR rear is dated 1972. The cranks have no date code, suggesting a pare-1973 vintage. The SR brake levers have the Breve. Camp on the barrels and the world logo hoods. The front changer has the flat no-hole cage. Unless the frame was built up with older parts that were laying around, I guess a 1972/1973 vintage.

Also, I am in need of a T.A. 5 bolt kit for attaching the big ring to the crank arm. Does anyone have one for sale or trade? Or know where they may be had?

George Allen Lexington, Ky USA

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