Re: [CR] Tall Francisco Cuevas on ebay

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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:50:31 -0400
From: "Edward Albert" <ealbert01@gmail.com>
To: "David G. White" <whiteknight@burlingtontelecom.net>
Cc: averyallen@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Tall Francisco Cuevas on ebay


I think you are right David. Edward Albert Chappaqua, New York, USA

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:31 AM, David G. White <whiteknight@burlingtontelecom.net> wrote:
> Hmmmm.... well, I've done a bit more research on the web. Perhaps I'm wrong
> about the spelling of his first name. I've seen it spelled both ways --
> Francesco and Francisco -- even the Classic Rendezvous website uses both
> spellings.  Moreover, looking closely at the stylized signature decal on the
> top tube of my own Cuevas bike, the letter looks more like an "i" than an
> "e".
>
> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/David-G-Whites-Bikes/Cuevas/Cuevas+headset+and+signature+_small_.jpg.html
>
> As for his sons, I've seen references to Fernando, Paco and Andres, but none
> to a son named Francisco.
>
> Does anyone know for sure?
>
> David
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> David G. White
> Burlington, VT
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> Edward Albert wrote:
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> I believe Francisco is Francesco's son.
> Edward Albert
> Chappaqua, New York, U.S.A.
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:55 AM, David G. White
> <whiteknight@burlingtontelecom.net> wrote:
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> This might be a Cuevas (some of the build features look as if they could be
> his), but....
>
> 1) Cuevas' first name was Francesco, not Francisco
> 2) Previously I've only seen Cuevas's last name used in the decals on the
> downtube (granted he made a lot of bikes and I've only seen a handful).
> 3) Typically the decal on the top tube was a stylized version of his
> signature, not "Custom Built"
> 4) Typically the seat stays on Cuevas bikes had fluted tops. It's a bit hard
> to be sure due to poor photos, but it looks as if this one has plan tops.
>
> The best way to know whether this is a genuine Cuevas would be to see a
> photo of the underside of the fork crown. Cuevas placed a cross brace at the
> bottom the the steerer tube. Like this one:
>
> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/David-G-Whites-Bikes/Cuevas/Cuevas+head+tube+cross+bracing+1.JPG.html
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> This one is even too tall for me!
>
> Best,
>
> David
>
> David G. White
> Burlington, VT
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> averyallen@aol.com wrote:
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> Listers and Listees,
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> Not sure if this has been discussed yet.? A very tall Francisco Cuevas is
> listed on ebay.??Nice lug work.? Reynolds 531 frame. ?Item number
> ?(220487225852) .? Seller has stated he thinks Francisco Cuevas was the
> owner and not the builder!???? Bike is in Charlotte, NC.? No relation to
> seller.
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> David Allen
>
> Marietta, Georgia near the Big Chicken