Re: [CR] Fluted and semi-wrapping seat stays

(Example: Racing:Jean Robic)

Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:51:01 -0700
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: "David G. White" <whiteknight@burlingtontelecom.net>
In-Reply-To: <4AC3DA0E.1010601@burlingtontelecom.net>
Cc: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR] Fluted and semi-wrapping seat stays


I think my Cuevas is the same. I see your photos also show the other Cuevas signatures, the stay end treatment at the DO's, the peak on the seatlug and the cross reinforcement under the fork crown. But the seatstay caps on the Cuevas are similar to the pics posted earlier of Limongi's and both were building for Paris Sport at the same time. I wonder who influenced who?

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA


--- On Wed, 9/30/09, David G. White wrote:


> From: David G. White <whiteknight@burlingtontelecom.net>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Fluted and semi-wrapping seat stays
> To: "Jerome & Elizabeth Moos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "Dmitry Yaitskov" <dima@rogers.com>
> Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 5:22 PM
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> I've seen a number of builders whose seatstay caps
> curve over the seat
> lug. What is subtly different about the caps on my Cuevas
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> whether it's true for other Cuevas frames) is that the
> seatstay caps
> not only curve over the top tube, they also twist forward
> slightly. It
> is subtle and does not show clearly in the photos. It's
> so subtle that
> perhaps it's not there at all and I am imagining it.
> But the comment on
> my website is intended to reflect the twisting I perceive
> and have seen
> nowhere else.
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> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/David-G-Whites-Bikes/Cuevas/Cuevas+seat+cluster+4+_small_.jpg.html
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> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/David-G-Whites-Bikes/Cuevas/Cuevas+seat+cluster+2.jpg.html
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> David
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> David G. White
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> Burlington, VT
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> Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:
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> It is worth noting that Limongi and Cuevas were both
> building frames for Paris Sport at the same time. I suppose
> they might have influenced one another's styles. That
> said, fluted seatstay caps were very common, perhaps most
> associated with Italian frames, but produced by builders
> from many countries. Or in Cuevas' case a single
> builder from many countries, as he built frames on three
> different continents during his career.
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> Regards,
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> Jerry Moos
> Bid Spring, Texas, USA
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> --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Dmitry Yaitskov <dima@rogers.com>
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> From: Dmitry Yaitskov <dima@rogers.com>
> Subject: [CR] Fluted and semi-wrapping seat stays
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 4:17 PM
> In yesterday's discussion of a Cuevas
> bike David White pointed to his
> wooljersey gallery, and there his comment drew my attention
> to, quote:
> "the very sweet fluted seat stay caps that twist over
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> top tube."
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> Here's a very nice looking frame with a similar (to my
> eye)
> seatstays
> treatment (not mine, no relation to seller etc):
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> http://tinyurl.com/yct58lk
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> Cheers,
> Dmitry Yaitskov,
> Toronto, Canada.
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