Re: [CR] Columbus Aelle tubing

(Example: Framebuilding:Brazing Technique)

From: "Dave Porter" <frogeye@porterscustom.com>
To: 'Phil Brown' <philcycles@sbcglobal.net>, 'Classic Rendezvous' <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:41:06 -0700
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Subject: Re: [CR] Columbus Aelle tubing


I'm going to have to disagree a bit on that comment. I have always used only top shelve materials for the reason I think Doug Fattic mentioned in an earlier post. And there was a time when there wasn't much difference between entry level materials and top line, but when consumers today still demand custom frames for say $1300-1500 and the materials are $500.00 and more plus consumables, I'd say that makes the builder's margins mighty small and the costs significant. IMHO Dave P.

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-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Phil Brown Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:25 PM To: Classic Rendezvous Subject: Re: [CR] Columbus Aelle tubing

On Jan 16, 2009, at 7:42 PM, Doug Fattic wrote:
> I never had any affection for it. I couldn't see spending many hours
> custom
> making a frame and then trying to save $20 on a set of tubes. I've had
> several sets of it in my shop but I think it came from when I collected
> stuff from Melton when they went under in Delaware, Ohio.
>

I agree. tubing represents a surprisingly small part of the cost of a frame. Phil Brown Did the cost analysis in Berkeley, Calif.