Re: [CR] Care of vintage bikes

(Example: Framebuilders:Tony Beek)

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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:45:02 -0700
From: "John D Proch" <johnprochss@yahoo.com>
To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR] Care of vintage bikes


Hello Fellow Vintage Cycling Enthusiasts,

I have found in life's journey that there has always been a saying that "if one wants something done right, do it yourself". This is not true! With this mentality, I have been a "Jack of all trades and a Master of none". By building my own home and shops with every saw stroke and every nail that was driven, I learned, I did it well, but would starve if I had to rely on it for a living. The same holds true with all the cars I have restored, bikes I have restored, but while life only gives us so many minutes in this world, it is nice to be able to trust someone else that is trained, even with our vintage steel bicycles. The hard thing for some, with due respect, is that word "trust". I know a very young man who works on bikes. I trust him, he is friendly, he does a wonderful job and is swamped with work, even in this so called recession we are in. He has built a name for himself. The difference between a professional and a hobbyist (or sometimes called an amateur) is a professional does it for a living and much faster. Maintaining a good name is so important. If you have an occupation that will not permit you enough time to work on your vintage bike, then ask around, like on this Classic Rendezvous message board. I have discovered that with some of the questions that I have presented here, so many kind individuals have jumped in to the rescue to help me with answers that I have never received anywhere else, but here. Thanks to all of you. If you want to keep doing it yourself, and you only trust yourself, then that is fine. I would recommend that if you take on the challenge of building your own home, find a professional to float the sheet rock.

Best Regards, John Proch La Grange, Texas

________________________________ From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org; Tom Sanders <tom@orderandchaos.com> Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2009 8:30:17 PM Subject: Re: [CR] Care of vintage bikes

I nearly never take anything to a shop anymore. Most shops have young mechanics, and even owners, who are totally ignorant of classic bikes. It is even worse, because I have a lot of French bikes, and the idea of having a French bike worked on by someone who never heard of French thread is downright frightening.

There are those rare vintage oriented shops like many associated with the CR List, that have the tools, knowledge, skills and interest, but these are probably no more than 1% of all US bike shops. And they tend to be located in large or at least decent sized cities, while I have lived in small towns much of the last 20 years. The best chance in small towns is often to find a Schwinn shop that has been in businees for several decades, maybe for more than one generation. There was one such shop in Warren, PA, a metropolis of 11,000 souls, where I lived for several years. Even then, I had little mechanical work done there, as I had probably as many classic tools as he did, but I did dig through his parts bins for small parts that sometimes had been in inventory for 25 years. Also enjoyed taking bikes by to show off and he always enjoyed seeing them. I remember him enjoying explaining to his young helper the function of the suicide front derailleur on my 1950 Claud Butler.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA


--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Tom Sanders wrote:


> From: Tom Sanders <tom@orderandchaos.com>

\r?\n> Subject: [CR] Care of vintage bikes

\r?\n> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

\r?\n> Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 5:52 AM

\r?\n> I'd say it all depends on your bike

\r?\n> shop. When you find a good one, really

\r?\n> go out of your way to cultivate a good relationship with

\r?\n> them. I am

\r?\n> fortunate to have one with a 40 year mechanic who is just a

\r?\n> super guy and

\r?\n> I'm proud to count him as a friend. He takes such

\r?\n> pride in his work, that

\r?\n> he will often insist that I bring the bike back in the off

\r?\n> season so that he

\r?\n> can do something that he sees could be done better.

\r?\n> We have spent many a

\r?\n> slow afternoon drinking coffee and puttering on one of my

\r?\n> bikes. He loves

\r?\n> vintage and just lights up like a light when I bring him

\r?\n> something neat.

\r?\n> The guy is sheer joy to be around. It is really fun

\r?\n> to see him take a

\r?\n> really recalcitrant tire and just roll it onto a rim with

\r?\n> his fingers after

\r?\n> the shop guys have broken tire irons on it. He weighs

\r?\n> maybe 130# soaking

\r?\n> wet and all are in awe of his ability to do this. He

\r?\n> can figure out ways to

\r?\n> do things that I have thought impossible.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> One caveat: you may have to ask that he do the work himself

\r?\n> and not give to

\r?\n> one of the young kids in the shop. I have had a

\r?\n> couple of less than

\r?\n> satisfactory experiences when that happens. I also

\r?\n> try to take most of my

\r?\n> work to him in the off season, and let him not get tied up

\r?\n> with it during

\r?\n> the shop's peak season.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> If you've got a good bike guy, for goodness' sake do

\r?\n> patronize him (or her,

\r?\n> my buddy Karen is about as capable as anyone I know) and

\r?\n> they can for sure

\r?\n> use the income.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Tom Sanders

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Lansing, MI USA