Re: [CR] Bike frame angles

(Example: Component Manufacturers:Campagnolo)

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:56:20 -0400
From: "Ken Freeman" <kenfreeman096@gmail.com>
To: "MMullett(BTInternet)" <mikemullett@btinternet.com>
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Bike frame angles


I don't argue that a neutral steer criterion exists, but I doubt it's safe to assume that all frames are built following that functional relationship. At any given head angle, one may choose to design for a faster or slower steering response. It seems safer to measure head angle at the straight-ahead position, rather than to depend on a framebuilder having slavishly followed this criterion.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:03 AM, MMullett(BTInternet) < mikemullett@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Ken Freeman wrote - >>Turning the bar 90 degrees causes the head tube to
> drop, steepening the head
> tube measurement.<<
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> Every head angle has a correct fork rake. The top tube will drop only if
> the fork rake is too short for the head angle. It will also rise if the
> fork rake is too great for the head angle.
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> The relationship for no movement is: Fork Rake = Wheel Rad (1- sin a) / cos
> a,
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> Where a is the head angle.
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> Seat angles for team bikes at Ilkeston were not quoted, but the dimension
> used was afterbracket or set back as Norris Lockley outlined in his post.
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> Mike Mullett
>
> Reading UK
>

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Ken Freeman
Ann Arbor, MI USA