Re: [CR] Helyett Speciale

(Example: Framebuilders:Dario Pegoretti)

From: "jaouen BAZIN" <jaouenbazin@free.fr>
To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:04:22 +0200
In-Reply-To: <446252.82936.qm@web26602.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Helyett Speciale


Alex your frame is very nice probably from middle of 50's why any speciale is top of the line? you must see a classic helyett too see the difference I have probably touch 5 helyett speciale from 40's to 60's. Not all are the same, some are most beautiful from other. The main difference is the stay. Jaouen Bazin wissous France

-----Message d'origine----- De : classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]De la part de alex m Envoyé : mardi 20 octobre 2009 18:32 À : Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Objet : [CR] Helyett Speciale

Here is for comparison a Helyett Speciale  frame that had a double cable RD, probably a Juy 543, so it must be late 50s

http://www.reneherse.com/helyettframe.html

This frame belonged to an ex semi-pro, so was the top of the line Helyett model.

With the Peugeot bikes, "3 tubes Reynolds" as opposed to "tous tubes Reynolds" is the sign of a cheaper bike. But you can notice in the frame linked above, the fork also has a Reynolds transfer. So effectively, the whole frame including stays is in Reynolds (Reynolds 3 tubes renforces bases et montants = 3 Reynolds tubes + stays).

I don't see this fork sticker on the eBay frame (the auction is effectively for a lovely frame, plus a lot of pretty nice but non-original parts). Maybe there were slightly different levels of "Speciale", but as Jaouen says any Speciale is certainly top of the line.

Alexander March
Bordeaux
France