Re: [CR] Badge adhesive

(Example: Framebuilders:Alberto Masi)

From: "Robert D. Dayton,Jr." <rdayton@carolina.rr.com>
To: "'Scott L. Minneman'" <minneman@onomy.com>, 'verktyg' <verktyg@aol.com>, 'Classic Rendezvous' <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:46:52 -0400
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Subject: Re: [CR] Badge adhesive


Would a small tube of 3M Trim Adhesive work? It would be a lot cheaper. Regards, Rob Dayton

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Scott L. Minneman Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 2:39 PM To: 'verktyg'; 'Classic Rendezvous' Subject: Re: [CR] Badge adhesive

Not to weigh in on using cyanocrylate glues for this purpose (although some of the rubber-loaded and gap filling formulations would certainly do the trick), but there's a substance call Insta-Set that'll prevent the fogging. It catalyzes the drying process and the thing is placed.

There are also Un-Set formulas that'll clear the fogging, if it happens. Use a Q-Tip or something like that.

That said, I think there are some versions of VHB (serious 3M double-sticky tapes) that are better suited. Their 4926 product is nice and thin, dark gray, good general-purpose adhesive. You'd prefer the adhesive from the 4952 stuff (for lower surface energy materials), but it's only available with much thicker foams (too thick for my tastes). Powdercoat paints aren't *that* low surface energy, in the grand scheme of things, so the regular stuff should be adequate if it's done right. I'd probably use a tape primer on the surfaces, just to be sure. Don't try to make the adhesive substitute for a correctly-contoured badge...shape the thing right beforehand. Make sure your fingers never touch the adhesive surface -- your finger oils ruin it. Once you get the 3M material and supplies, you're probably in for over $30, but you've got a lifetime supply of stuff to attach badges with (but with a limited shelf-life, all of it). Look for other things to fix/attach with tape...it's amazing stuff.

Scott Minneman San Francisco, CA USA

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of verktyg Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 9:39 AM To: globallyoff@s2ki.com; Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org; verktyg@aol.com Subject: Re: [CR] Badge adhesive

To add to what Keith said, you probably want to avoid using any of the Cyanoacrylates - crazy glue, instant glue etc.

They out-gas fumes while they're curing or setting up that can leave a difficult to remove "frost" outside of the glued area.

Chas. Colerich Oakland, CA USA

globallyoff@s2ki.com wrote:
> Most auto supply stores sell emblem adhesive (or something with similar
> name).
>
> It works well, and with a hair dryer and some dental floss, you can get
> the badge/emblem off without damaging the paint.
>
> Keith Kessel
> Shreveport, La.
>
> On Fri, October 23, 2009 10:22 pm, Dan Hammack wrote:
>
>> Can anyone recommend a good adhesive for a metal badge
>> to a powdercoated tandem frame I built (super-glue, epoxy, double-sided
>> tape, etc.)?
>>
>> G Dan Hammack
>> Santa Barbara, CA USA