Re: [CR] We had NO IDEA back in 1973

(Example: Production Builders:Cinelli)

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:22:56 -0700
From: "verktyg" <verktyg@aol.com>
To: donald gillies <gillies@ece.ubc.ca>, <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <20091009044711.83612118B2@lvs1-r3.ece.ubc.ca>
In-Reply-To: <20091009044711.83612118B2@lvs1-r3.ece.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: [CR] We had NO IDEA back in 1973


In 1974-75 we were buying "all Campy" Bottecchias for ~$300. They came with Universal Model 61 brakes. In those days, "all Campy" frequently meant everything but the brakes. We'd part them out and try to sell the frames as replacements for $50 to $100.

Chas. Colerich Oakland, CA USA

donald gillies wrote:
> Back in 1973 and 1974, Campagnolo gruppos even through mail order were
> so expensive that it was often cheaper to buy an entire bike and THROW
> AWAY THE FRAME in order to get the campy build kit. The OEM discounts
> must have been very steep as the savings were passed on to the
> consumer. The most common "Parts-Donor Bikes" in this era were (in
> order of increasing bike cost) :
>
> 1. Windsor Professional
> 2. Raleigh International
>
> Carlton Cycles pumped out 10,000+ reynolds 531 bikes in 1974, and I
> think that several thousand of the 'International' and 'Professional'
> models were part of that production. I don't know the exact numbers,
> but I doubt that MASI USA produced more than a few hundred frames in
> 1974.
>
> With many of these donor bikes languishing in garages across the USA,
> I don't think there will be any shortage of parts for MASI bikes with
> PAT 73 (typically found on '74 bikes) on the cranks, derailleurs, and
> hubset locknuts.
>
> - Don Gillies
> San Diego, CA, USA