Item#300364710017 Baines Flying gate. Looking at the photo and having NEVER ridden one. What was gained by the design? the fork rake on this older one would negate I would think any advantage of the frame design.The point of the saddle must be way behind the bottom bracket.with the long top tube and sitting so far back.steering the bloody thing must have been a chore. OR am I wrong as usual? lets hear from you CR members who have one, Maybe Dave Moulton could comment on this, I understand the reason for the design was to shorten the wheelbase? would this be an advantage in climbing? Cheers John Crump OldandstretchedoutenoughBrit, Parker. Co USA