Question on the narrow handlebars - When I restored my 50's italian mysterbike last year, I used 38cm bars - which are pretty narrow for me - but, I kept hearing that's how these bikes were configured/ridden, so I wanted to build it in as close to real shape as possible to see how it rides. etc...
I'm now wondering if it was possible that 38's were all that common, though I love this bike and it's wierd qwerks - can anyone shed light on the configuration/geometry of these older bikes?
Thanks
Rob Gougahry
Stamford, CT USA
> From: Jay S <jvs@sonic.net>
\r?\n> Subject: [CR] Frejus
\r?\n> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
\r?\n> Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 1:27 AM
\r?\n> Jim,
\r?\n>
\r?\n> I have that same exact frame / bicycle. I
\r?\n> bought mine from list member Steven Maasland, who if I
\r?\n> recall (and I could be wrong) got it from J.P. I
\r?\n> believe it's an early 60's, so your assessment of the date
\r?\n> is accurate. Mine was completely original and in a sad
\r?\n> state. I very carefully and painstakingly refurbished
\r?\n> it using all that parts that were on the bike. I can
\r?\n> send you photos if you like of the bike and components so
\r?\n> you know how it looks in it's original
\r?\n> configuration. It's a pretty cool bike with
\r?\n> mojo up the yin yang. Even rides pretty well, if you
\r?\n> like reeeeally narrow handlebars.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Jay Sexton
\r?\n> Sebastopol, CA
\r?\n>
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Message: 13
\r?\n> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:29:51 -0700
\r?\n> From: John <jtperry330@me.com>
\r?\n> Subject: Re: [CR] Frejus
\r?\n> To: jim abt <jamesabt@charter.net>
\r?\n> Cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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\r?\n> Jim,
\r?\n> She is not rare; you'll need allot of
\r?\n> numbers if your gonna start counting. Tour model
\r?\n> was second in line to the Professional model
\r?\n> ( which is not really
\r?\n> "rare" either). Figure she dates just post 1950
\r?\n> from the seat sticker. The headtube badges had
\r?\n> the years listed winning the worlds; at least on the pro
\r?\n> models. Non campy rear dropouts are the giveaway
\r?\n> to hierarchy.
\r?\n> Cool, sell or build and enjoy.
\r?\n> Funny, I've only scene the Tour models in this
\r?\n> bronze/maroon "Team" color combo, but NEVER a pro
\r?\n> model.
\r?\n> The list meister has a Frejus city bike
\r?\n> in this color combo that I sold him. Look for
\r?\n> her on the site.
\r?\n> Now if ya find a pro in team colors,
\r?\n> well that's a story!
\r?\n>
\r?\n>
\r?\n> John Pergolizzi
\r?\n> San Diego, Ca
\r?\n> Soon to live in TORINO!
\r?\n>
\r?\n>
\r?\n> On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:39 PM, jim abt wrote:
\r?\n>
\r?\n>
\r?\n> > > I had the person that sold me this bike tell me
\r?\n> that this was a 1955 > Frejus. The
\r?\n> identicifications signs on the bike (sine you can not
\r?\n> > track the serial number effecitvely that I know
\r?\n> of....says that bike > is a 1962 or 1963). There
\r?\n> are stamps on the Campy hub lock nuts that >
\r?\n> describe the year of the hubs (I think) and there is a stamp
\r?\n> on the > steer tube of the fork with the initials
\r?\n> TDF 62. Can you guys tell > me if I am tracking the
\r?\n> year properly? That way I will not have to > rely
\r?\n> on the sellers word.
\r?\n> > >
\r?\n> > > The other thing is I am attaching is a photo link
\r?\n> (item # > 140360537831 on Ebay) so that members can
\r?\n> look to see if they have a > frame like it or have
\r?\n> seen anyone with one. I am trying to count how >
\r?\n> many there are and how rare it is. I feel that it may be. I
\r?\n> guess > what I am trying to do is
\r?\n> authenticate my ad for selling the >
\r?\n> thing.....thanks
\r?\n> > >
\r?\n> > >
\r?\n> > >
\r?\n> > >
\r?\n> > > Jim Abt
\r?\n> > > Wausau, Wi. USA