i echo lou -- my time in Viet Nan, with many not so pleasant memories, does not prevent me from enjoying a ride around town in a Vietnamese rickshaw - owned by my bud at our local bike shop. subjectiveness tends to weaken with time!!
ronnie edmiston winter haven fl USA
-----Original Message----- From: loudeeter@aol.com To: hsachs@alumni.rice.edu; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:12 am Subject: Re: [CR] "Bisbee Bike Brothel" - a put-off?
Harvey, sounds like revisionist history to me. Ken owns it. Ken named it. He ust like it. I do too. The building was a brothel. Prostitution, like it or ot, is one of the world's oldest professions. It isn't going to go away just ecause you turn your head, close your eyes, and don't acknowledge it. I roudly wear the t-shirt. Pronouncing judgement on someone else's decision in opes you can influence a change is what I would call a "put-off". Lou eeter, Orlando FL USA
-----Original Message----- rom: Harvey Sachs <hmsachs@verizon.net> o: r.clair@cox.net; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org; kwallace62@cox.net ent: Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:01 am ubject: [CR] "Bisbee Bike Brothel" - a put-off?
'm not sure I have Ken's email address, I've used the most recent one I found. en has a beautiful collection, one to be proud of.
ut somehow, I feel uncomfortable about the name Ken has chosen for his shop and ollection, and thought I'd finally try to share that with him. So, please orward this if the address above is wrong. And because this is tangentially elated to our topic domain, let's not get into a long discussion on the list.
brothel" just has too many unpleasant connotations in my mind to be used umorously. Too much history of exploitation and servitude. I can't imagine, or example, naming a shop "Greg's Gulag". or "Harvey's Harem for Bikes."
ore important to me, it just doesn't describe my relationship to my vintage ikes. My bikes are not just "rented" for a short time, but long-term elationships. I've had several bikes three decades or more. Each is cherished or its ride and for what it speaks about some specific aspect of the hobby. The 38 Paramount was launch year for a great product, and the JC Higgins/Sears with riginal Campag stuff duplicates my first 10-speed. The Serotta was the last of he lugged production bikes. Each has a story that means something to me.
here are other approaches and attitudes, but I think all of us on the list nvest time and money out of love, not need.
'm not a prude, and I've shared my stock of the risque. If Ken's building was a rothel way back when, I'd probably put up a plaque on its history if it were ine. But, I have a sense of how my wife would feel if I suggested visiting the hop by that name. I'd have to do some explaining. And her seven sisters? I hink the same.
ust my thought this holiday season.
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