Just a friendly reminder to all that we pretty much had this discussion only a month and a half ago - 10/19/2009.
Search function for bikelist.org works quite well. Suggest OP consider checking that first next time by searching against "search_term", selecting the "CR" list, and specifiying modified for a "year". Lotsa info in that thread.
(My mother was a nickel plater at Phil Wood for 3 months.)
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Robert Shackelford San Jose, CA USA
Quoting joeb-z@comcast.net:
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> The earliest chrome plated hubs were subject to corrosion. Also the earliest
> bearings sometimes dried up and failed. I think the Phil grease was part of
> the eventual answer. There is a very uncommon large flange early version of
> the hubs also.
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> Joe Bender-Zanoni
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> Whitneyville, CT
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> From: oroboyz@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2009 7:50:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [CR] Phil Wood hubs
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> << The steel hub bodies came from the factory in a nice satiny silver/grey
> color, but a couple of pairs have shown
> up recently which were highly polished â pretty cool, actually. >>
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> The earlier version was chrome plated.. then they went to that satin finish
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> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, North Carolina  USA
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Derek Vandeberg <derek@frameref.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Wed, Dec 9, 2009 7:31 pm
> Subject: Re: [CR] Phil Wood hubs
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> Uncertain if you want to know if Phil hubs were around in the â70s, or if
> youâre looking for a pair. Â History of Phil â the first hubs were
> introduced
> in 1971, I think, and remained largely unchanged until the mid â80s.
> Aluminum flanges, steel hub body with red script âPhilâ, all threaded for
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> freewheels at the time, obviously. The steel hub bodies came from the
> factory in a nice satiny silver/grey color, but a couple of pairs have shown
> up recently which were highly polished â pretty cool, actually. Â Axles
> were
> available in both quick release and bolt-on versions, with the latter using
> ½â allen bolts with, IIRC, integral washers, much like track hub locknuts.
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> Replaceable cartridge bearings â I think they may have been the first hubs
> using these bearings, though Iâm not certain of that. Â Axles were
> interchangeable so you could respace the rear for a newer bike and just
> redish the wheel, insteal of buying all new. They were and are bombproof,
> just like the bottom brackets. Â My dad has a bb from â78 or so that must
> have well over 80K on it, the last 15 years or so on a foul weather training
> bike. Â Dadâs an animal â at 65, 4K miles is a light year for him. Â I
> relaced
> a pair of 40/48s in the mid â80s that had so many miles on them that the
> sidewalls of the Super Champion 58 rims were worn through â bearings were
> still smooth as glass. Â A relatively well-known expedition touring cyclist,
> I think we gave that guy a new pair of rims for freeâ¦
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> Prototype aluminum hubs showed up in the shop I worked in some time around
> early â85, and I think they were production items by â86 â not on topic
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> If you were looking for a pair, rather than a history, please contact me off
> list â Iâve got a pair of used but excellent ones that Iâm cleaning up
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> readying for sale.
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> Cheers,
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> Derek Vandeberg
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> Bigfork, Montana
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