IIRC Raleigh used the Team colors at almost every quality level. I thought they even had some gaspipe models, including the Record, one step below th e Grand Prix, in Team colors. If so, and if that gaspipe model was also ma rked Record, it could be really confusing. Except a gaspipe Record would n ot likely have pro quality forged DO's like this frame.
Regards,
Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA
> From: Hugh Thornton <hughwthornton@yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Raleigh Pros, Raleigh Team on ebay #400032976224
> To: "Dale Brown" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "Jon Spangler" <hudson
spangler@earthlink.net>
> Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 6:23 AM
>
> Don't worry about not getting this -- it isn't a
> real Team Pro. The Reco
> rd in team colors is a nice frame, Worksop-built from the
> same 531 tubing a
> s the Team Pro but with lesser lugs and half-chrome front
> forks and no ch
> rome on the rear dropouts - not like some/all Worksop-built
> Team Pros which
> had front and rear dropout faces chromed. The Team
> Record frames that I
> have seen have not been as well finished as the team
> replicas.
>
> Hugh Thornton
> Cheshire, England
>
> --- On Sat, 28/2/09, Jon Spangler
> <hudsonspangler@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> From: Jon Spangler <hudsonspangler@earthlink.net>
> Subject: [CR] Raleigh Pros, Raleigh Team on ebay
> #400032976224
> To: "Dale Brown"
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Date: Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 2:07 AM
>
> Folks,
>
> I emailed larry Osborn to thank him for his
> "rant" about serial
> numbers at Raleigh, and made the mistake of telling him I
> no longer own eit
> her
> of my Raleigh Pro Mk IVs:
>
> "Both my Raleigh Pros (MK IVs, 52 CM) are gone now:
> one was stolen in
> 1975, one was re-tubed after a crash (got hit by a car) and
> subsequently so
> ld.
> The one I sold had a G series serial #, but it has a
> redesigned front end (
> not
> very successful, BTW) of Vitus 971 tubing so it's a
> Frankenbike anyway,
> wherever it is...."
>
> Larry immediately suggested that I should buy another
> Raleigh. (That would
> cause extreme domestic financial and emotional discord
> right now, so is not
> an
> option. :-)
>
> But guess what showed up on ebay in my size, just to tease
> me?
>
> VINTAGE TEAM RALEIGH RECORD REYNOLDS 531 FRAME (In my size,
> no less: 50 CM
> seat
> c-c x 55 CM Top c-c)
>
> Check out ebay #400032976224. It looks very nice, and would
> probably fit me
> and
> ride better than my two Mark IVs, but it's out of my
> reach until I'm
> working again...
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon Spangler
> who may become a re-convert to Raleigh after some future
> economic stimulati
> on
> in Alameda, CA USA