i think the 3rensho clue lies in the offset fork crown.
http://www.wooljersey.com/
Jeff Piwonka
Austin, Texas USA
> From: Daniel Gonzalez <dannyg1@mail.com>
\r?\n> Subject: [CR] A question about the early '84 Specialized Allez SE
\r?\n> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
\r?\n> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 9:38 PM
\r?\n> I've been doing off hand research on the Specialized
\r?\n> Allez and the 3Rensho
\r?\n> connection for a good while now and I've come up with a
\r?\n> new conundrum that
\r?\n> I'd love to have settled. Seems to me that the
\r?\n> introduction in 1984 of the
\r?\n> Allez SE describes a bike that perfectly resembles the
\r?\n> 3Rensho Katana serie
\r?\n> s. Here's a link to 4 pages of info on the 84 Allez SE:
\r?\n>
\r?\n> http://tinyurl.com/
\r?\n>
\r?\n> At this point in Specialized history, the Allez has been
\r?\n> confirmed by a num
\r?\n> ber of people whom worked at the factory as having been
\r?\n> made by 3Rensho. A
\r?\n> link to Randy Dugan's 3Rensho '84 Allez gallery:
\r?\n>
\r?\n> http://tinyurl.com/
\r?\n>
\r?\n> The Allez SE though, is widely thought to have been made by
\r?\n> Miyata under th
\r?\n> e tutelage of Jim Merz. In looking over the some photos of
\r?\n> my what I think
\r?\n> to be '85 Allez SE and comparing it to photos I've
\r?\n> found of a Katana on Woo
\r?\n> l Jersey, it seems to me that these frame are
\r?\n> extraordinarily close in bull
\r?\n> d. Enough so that I'm thinking it's obvious that
\r?\n> the 3Rensho connection had
\r?\n> n't ended the early 90's. Here's six photos for
\r?\n> direct comparison (the Shim
\r?\n> ano 6400 rear der on the Allez is later added):
\r?\n>
\r?\n> http://tinyurl.com/
\r?\n> http://tinyurl.com/
\r?\n>
\r?\n> http://tinyurl.com/
\r?\n> http://tinyurl.com/
\r?\n>
\r?\n> http://tinyurl.com/
\r?\n> http://tinyurl.com/
\r?\n>
\r?\n> The brake bridge, Stay cap and seat lug treatments are very
\r?\n> different betwe
\r?\n> en these two frames, but all in all, I suspect they're
\r?\n> brothers. Thoughts?
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Danny Gonzalez
\r?\n> NY, NY
\r?\n> USA
\r?\n>
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