Re: [CR] A question about the early '84 Specialized Allez SE

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:03:51 -0800
From: "jeffrey piwonka" <jmpiwonka@yahoo.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, Daniel Gonzalez <dannyg1@mail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20090204033817.17B251BF28D@ws1-10.us4.outblaze.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] A question about the early '84 Specialized Allez SE


i think the 3rensho clue lies in the offset fork crown. http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/Randy+Dugan/allez/IMG_2285.JPG.html

Jeff Piwonka
Austin, Texas USA


--- On Tue, 2/3/09, Daniel Gonzalez wrote:


> From: Daniel Gonzalez <dannyg1@mail.com>

\r?\n> Subject: [CR] A question about the early '84 Specialized Allez SE

\r?\n> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

\r?\n> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 9:38 PM

\r?\n> I've been doing off hand research on the Specialized

\r?\n> Allez and the 3Rensho

\r?\n> connection for a good while now and I've come up with a

\r?\n> new conundrum that

\r?\n> I'd love to have settled. Seems to me that the

\r?\n> introduction in 1984 of the

\r?\n> Allez SE describes a bike that perfectly resembles the

\r?\n> 3Rensho Katana serie

\r?\n> s. Here's a link to 4 pages of info on the 84 Allez SE:

\r?\n>

\r?\n> http://tinyurl.com/84-Allez-SE-sheet-pg1of-4

\r?\n>

\r?\n> At this point in Specialized history, the Allez has been

\r?\n> confirmed by a num

\r?\n> ber of people whom worked at the factory as having been

\r?\n> made by 3Rensho. A

\r?\n> link to Randy Dugan's 3Rensho '84 Allez gallery:

\r?\n>

\r?\n> http://tinyurl.com/84-3Rensho-Allez

\r?\n>

\r?\n> The Allez SE though, is widely thought to have been made by

\r?\n> Miyata under th

\r?\n> e tutelage of Jim Merz. In looking over the some photos of

\r?\n> my what I think

\r?\n> to be '85 Allez SE and comparing it to photos I've

\r?\n> found of a Katana on Woo

\r?\n> l Jersey, it seems to me that these frame are

\r?\n> extraordinarily close in bull

\r?\n> d. Enough so that I'm thinking it's obvious that

\r?\n> the 3Rensho connection had

\r?\n> n't ended the early 90's. Here's six photos for

\r?\n> direct comparison (the Shim

\r?\n> ano 6400 rear der on the Allez is later added):

\r?\n>

\r?\n> http://tinyurl.com/Allez-SE-headlugs

\r?\n> http://tinyurl.com/Katana-S-headlugs

\r?\n>

\r?\n> http://tinyurl.com/Allez-SE-head-top-view

\r?\n> http://tinyurl.com/Katana-head-top-view

\r?\n>

\r?\n> http://tinyurl.com/Allez-SE-rear-drop

\r?\n> http://tinyurl.com/Katana-rear-drop

\r?\n>

\r?\n> The brake bridge, Stay cap and seat lug treatments are very

\r?\n> different betwe

\r?\n> en these two frames, but all in all, I suspect they're

\r?\n> brothers. Thoughts?

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Danny Gonzalez

\r?\n> NY, NY

\r?\n> USA

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