Re: [CR] Was Snubbed on a Sunday afternoon - Now Fixie?

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From: <monkeyhateclean@mac.com>
To: jeffrey piwonka <jmpiwonka@yahoo.com>, "[CR]" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <345133.15978.qm@web82705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:04:02 -0700
References: <345133.15978.qm@web82705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Was Snubbed on a Sunday afternoon - Now Fixie?


jeff piwonka:

hey jeff,

actually while i ride with a front brake (because i'm getting a little long in the tooth and my knees can't take it anymore)

a friend got a ticket here in l.a. for running brakeless despite it not being illegal. a point that is for another conversation.

we actually took three bikes all running roughly the same gear ratio. 69-71 gear inches and put it to the test.

one was a 2003 pinrello with a centaur grupo. one was his fix, and one was a specialized fsr(i think) mountain bike with disc brakes.

the pinarello and the fix both stopped within a couple of feet of each other every time. the disc brakes obviously stopped much shorter.

as far as the mash stuff goes, he asked about the kids riding fixies so i gave him a place to look at some. i never made claims to it being the best or worst of it's kind.

and for velodromes, come on out sometime, we have two here both offer lessons for beginners. it's a blast.

cheers! jaik l.a.

On Mar 24, 2009, at 2:04 PM, jeffrey piwonka wrote:
>
>
> --- On Tue, 3/24/09, monkeyhateclean@mac.com
> <monkeyhateclean@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> p.s. i almost forgot, yes the hardcore ride brakeless! once
>> you've learned to skid stop, you can stop just as fast
>> as with mechanical brakes.
>
> i think all can figure out pretty quickly that this simply isn't true.
>
> front and rear brakes in good working condition will stop faster
> than a skid stop every time.
>
> that mash stuff is ok the first few times you watch it but it leaves
> me thinking whats the point.
> i think typing in match sprint or merckx hour record is much more
> enjoyable fixed gear riding to watch.
>
> here most all the messengers ride geared bikes...they have fixed
> gears or track bikes but they are usually on the geared bikes.
> recently there has a been a larger number of fixed gear freestylers
> around and it seems the fixed gear finally caught on here, probably
> 50% of the people i see with one gear have a freewheel.
> i know a good number of people that would race if there were a
> velodrome here.

>

> Jeff Piwonka

> Austin, Texas

> USA