Re: [CR] Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 75, Issue 31

> From: David Ross <dlr94306@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Track bike set up
> To: Stronglight49@aol.com
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 10:25 AM
> I've owned or borrowed a number of track bikes, ridden
> them on the road and
> on the track. I would say the majority of them have
> toeclip overlap - rega
> rdless of age. My circa-1938/9 Durkopp has significant
> overlap, at least an
> inch. Of course, I'm also sporting size 11 (46 in
> Euro) feet.
>
> I also have a couple of road bikes with overlap, in case
> anyone want to exp
> and this discussion. I know that this is considered a
> "no-no" among thought
> ful frame builders these days, and these bikes were not
> built (too) recentl
> y - '70s and early '80s.
>
> Dave Ross
> in sunny but chilly Portola Vall ey, California, USA
>
>
> Bob Hansen wrote:
>
> "Could it be that? "later" that Track bikes
> were more
> commonly built with shorter wheel bases?? Would
> this have been concurrent with reduced lengths and
> their lowered wheel clearances of later Road racing
> bike frames????I honestly don't know. "
>
>
>
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Message: 5 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:02:51 -0700 From: Rich Pinder <rpinder@usc.edu> Subject: [CR] Replacement Mafac 'Salmon' Pads To: classic <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <49B53DAB.3080003@usc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed

I swear recently (last 60 days?) someone posted a solution for Mafac Racer/2000 pad replacements, which suggested using the salmon 'kool stop' type of pads, and I kind of THINK that the poster suggested that Harris Cyclery had them in stock. The suggestion may have included some 'trimming' needed to make them work.

If anyone recalls this and can point me to the post, I'd love it !! I tried making the 'search the archives' work... no luck - hope I wasnt dreaming this !!

thx Rich Pinder Van Nuys, CA

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Message: 6 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:13:16 -0600 From: Chris Kvale <chriskvalecycles@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [CR] Wanted: Colbolto Gems Please ????? To: "Koepke, Mark" <mkoepke@uwsp.edu> Cc: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <87a026160903090913g40cca892mb5786b41f4176a1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"

Hi--

One of my friends found, years ago, a perfect match in size and color, as I recall, at a notions store.

Chris Kvale Minneapolis, MN USA

On 3/9/09, Koepke, Mark <mkoepk e@uwsp.edu> wrote:
> Greetings! I know that I heard of a source for these little blue beauties
> on this site in the past. I need 3 of them. Reproductions or original ar
> e fine. Help!!!!! ????????
>
> Cheers, Mark
> Stevens Point
> WI 54481 USA
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Message: 7 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:34:00 -0700 From: Mark Fulton <markfulton5@mac.com> Subject: Re: [CR] Track bike set up Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <6C6F05BE-8F52-4F6A-86E7-C6EE5239D0FD@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; delsp=yes; format=flowed

I started track racing in 1948. We simply called the condition "toe lap." That term still works for me. It was only a problem when riding track bikes with fixed gears on the road. Primarily experienced during low-speed turns or when attempting a "track stand" at a traffic light (with one pedal forward.) Road bikes in those days had longer wheelbases and relaxed geometry, as did path racers. No toe lap. Today, big-foot fixie riders with modern road bikes, especially criterium race bikes can have toe lap. Again toe lap is only a problem with fixed gears, because with a freewheel most people coast around slow-speed turns anyway. And the first time you do that and the tire hits your toe, you learn to coast through turns with the inside pedal down.

Mark Fulton another good ridin' day in Redwood City California USA

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Message: 8 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:39:40 -0700 From: Rich Pinder <rpinder@usc.edu> Subject: Re: [CR] Replacement Mafac 'Salmon' Pads To: classic <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <49B5464C.20807@usc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed

THX for the post... so here's how a goofy brain works: I did read (recently) in Bike Quarterly the story, where Jan gives the hot ticket. And this post on the CR from last year is where Jan originally talked about them

thx all ! rich pinder van nuys, ca
> Was it this?
>
> http://search.bikelist.org/?SearchString=Mafac%20Brake%20Shoes%20Needed
>
> It's closer to 120 days, but maybe that was it.

Rich Pinder wrote:
> I swear recently (last 60 days?) someone posted a solution for Mafac
> Racer/2000 pad replacements, which suggested using the salmon 'kool
> stop' type of pads, and I kind of THINK that the poster suggested
> that Harris Cyclery had them in stock. The suggestion may have
> included some 'trimming' needed to make them work.
>
> If anyone recalls this and can point me to the post, I'd love it !!
> I tried making the 'search the archives' work... no luck - hope I
> wasnt dreaming this !!
>
> thx
> Rich Pinder
> Van Nuys, CA
> _______________________________________________
>

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Message: 9 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:40:31 -0700 From: Rich Pinder <rpinder@usc.edu> Subject: Re: [CR] Replacement Mafac 'Salmon' Pads To: classic <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <49B5467F.8020500@usc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed

woops.. .the pertinent story from Jan:
> Campy pre-1999 pads slip right into the holders. Kool-Stop makes a
> great salmon-colored pad, which is sold by Harris Cyclery and others. Rich Pinder Van Nuys, CA

Rich Pinder wrote:
> THX for the post... so here's how a goofy brain works:
> I did read (recently) in Bike Quarterly the story, where Jan gives the
> hot ticket.
> And this post on the CR from last year is where Jan originally talked
> about them
>
> thx all !
> rich pinder
> van nuys, ca
>
>> Was it this?
>>
>> http://search.bikelist.org/?SearchString=Mafac%20Brake%20Sho es%20Needed
>>
>> It's closer to 120 days, but maybe that was it.
>
>
> Rich Pinder wrote:
>> I swear recently (last 60 days?) someone posted a solution for Mafac
>> Racer/2000 pad replacements, which suggested using the salmon 'kool
>> stop' type of pads, and I kind of THINK that the poster suggested
>> that Harris Cyclery had them in stock. The suggestion may have
>> included some 'trimming' needed to make them work.
>>
>> If anyone recalls this and can point me to the post, I'd love it
>> !! I tried making the 'search the archives' work... no luck - hope
>> I wasnt dreaming this !!
>>
>> thx
>> Rich Pinder
>> Van Nuys, CA
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>

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Message: 10 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:56:48 -0700 From: robert st.cyr <rpstcyr@hotmail.com> Subject: [CR] For Sale Coppi and Raleigh Competition on Craig's list To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <BAY109-W53F62E006F4829EA3EE594A2A00@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

List, Offered for sale are two 56 cm frame sets on Sacramento Craig's list. I pos ted these on Saturday. Both have original finishes and decals and come with the headsets. The Coppi frame is from around 1970, has Columbus tubing, nicely thinne d long-point lugs, and Campag dropouts. The Competition is from 1972, h as Capella lugs, a nice slopping crown and Huret drop outs. I have the co rrect jubilee derailleurs for it if you would like. To small for me and saving for an alignment table... $95.00 each for list members plus actual cost of shipping. No charge for pa cking.

Robert St.Cyr

Sacramento, California USA

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Message: 11 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:18:47 -0500 From: Earle Young <earle.young@tds.net> Subject: Re: [CR] Vintage pro quality rims for sale To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <98663CA64DD64A079BD16CBB6653E67B@earlepc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Steven Maasland posted:
>If you went back in the CR-period correct day to find what were deemed
>to be the top of the line rims, there are a number of rims that often
>come up in the discussion. I am offering quite a few of these for sale
>right now. You can see the rims here: http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/maasland/For_Sale_Items/
>The grand-daddy of all TOP rims are the venerable Mavic SSC rims. Go a
>take a look at what CR list members have written by going here: http://search.bikelist.org/query.asp?SearchString=mavic%20SSC%20rims&Sc ope=classicrendezvous.
>I found it particularly interesting to read what the wheel building guru
>Earle Young wrote about the SSC rims, see: http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=classicrendezvous.10804. 0551.eml
>I have 4 pairs of these rims available in sensible 32 hole drillings:
>I have one pair of silver ones from the mid to late 70's that come from
>the personal stash of a former pro team mechanic. These rims date from
>the period in which they were still only supplied to the pros and not
>yet sold to the general public. These rims are NOS but have some shop
>wear after more than 30 years of storage. With a bit of Mothers polish
>they come out quite nicely. For this pair of rims, I would like $300,
>which includes shipping in the US. (weight about 395 g each)
>I then have 3 pairs of hard-anodized dark gray ones from the early 80's.
>These rims have the red Mavic label with the SSC identification on them
>as well as the gold decal saying Sp?cial Service de Course. These rims
>are NOS and have always been stored in plastic bags. For a pair of these
>ri ms, I would like $250, which includes shipping in the US. (weight
>about 405 g each)

Since Steven cited the post saying how much I love the Mavic SSC rims, and I still stand by that post, I have an offer for any CR listers tempted to buy those rims.

My usual build price for CR listers is $199 for spokes, labor and shipping. For any of the SSC rims, I will drop the price by $20, to $179 if I need to ship the wheels, and will go to an astounding $159 if they are to be delivered to Cirque du Cyclisme. The price includes buyer's choice of Wheelsmith or DT Competition double-butted stainless spokes and my usual meticulous (didn't Bob Shackleford call it "anal"?) build quality.

My only regret with these rims is that I can't afford them myself right now. Otherwise, I'd be riding them on my off-topic welded wonder bike.

Earle Young Madison, Wisconsin, USA Offering expert wheelbuilding services for classic and modern bikes

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Message: 12 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:33:40 +0000 From: Sarah Gibson <sadiejane9@hotmail.com> Subject: [CR] yet another flickr set To: classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <BAY141-W174AF76B83E7486562FF0F8CA00@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

from nahbs

http://www.flickr.com/photos/acmebicycle/sets/72157615028784300/

really sorry we missed the cr dinner

found a pub

with 20oz ipas for $2

way north

never found our way back that far south

it was two wheels all wknd long

next year!

peace

sarahgibson

kansascitymissouri

acmebicyclecompanydotcom

well behaved women rarely make history _ride yr friggin bicycle_

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Message: 13 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:13:42 -0700 From: robert st.cyr <rpstcyr@hotmail.com> Subject: [CR] Coppi f rame is sold! To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <BAY109-W12C30451851B966B660E7AA2A00@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Subject says it all. Thanks for looking. Raleigh Competition is still avail able.

Robert St.Cyr

Sacramento, California USA

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Message: 14 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:41:49 -0800 From: "Hansen, Thomas" <TH@HJTH.COM> Subject: [CR] Actually Riding To: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <79311A41F6FA734EB6DBBD6E7C88ED0D0407FA49E6@osu.HJTH.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Dear Listmembers, I spend so much time looking for the perfect parts for my restorations, I sometimes forget the whole point of this which is actually riding these wonderful old bikes. I live in the heart of Los Angeles wher e riding can take on "Death Race" attributes so I don't often get the oppor tunity to just enjoy the ride. I finally got my 60's Rene Herse dialed in the way I like it and drove out to a long bike path in the San Fernando Val ley where I actually got to ride in relative safety for hours. And it was wonderful and I immediately remembered how much I just LOVE bicycles. Tom Hansen, Los Angeles, California, USA.

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Message: 15 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:55:34 -0500 From: Wayne Bingham <blkmktbks@gmail.com> Subject: [CR] CIRQUE UPDATE To: Classic Rendezvous <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <73706f460903091255t1430b6f7rd7d9878b01827305@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"

As some of you have experienced when using the on-line registration for the Cirque, some people appear in the "Confirmed Riders" list and some (most) don't. The reason is that BikeReg is really set up for race registration, not events like the Cirque In order to make it simple, we chose to use the merchandise component of their system for the various types/costs of registering. That problem also existed last year, and even though we've streamlined the registration some, there are still too many choices.

However, there is a way to be added to the "confirmed" (which is why some people are already).

PLEASE NOTE, WHEN REGISTERING ON LINE, BE SURE TO CHECK THE BOX UNDER THE "CATEGORY" "FULL EVENT" HEADING THAT SHOWS A START TIME OF 11:00 AM AND AND ENTRY OF OF $0. (It's before you scroll down to the charge boxes.) CHECKING THAT BOX WILL PUT YOU IN THE "CONFIRMED RIDERS" LIST. I'VE CHANGED THE WORDING TO MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR. HOPEFULLY IT WILL HELP.

Unfortunately, I have not come up with a way to add those who have already registered, but I'm working on it. In my spare time. HA!!

Thanks to all those that have already registered. I will be a great show! -- Wayne Bingham Lovettsville, Virginia USA

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