You forgot: Tourmalet, Aubisque, Aspin, Peyresourde, Galibier, Izoard just to name a few.kim-------- Original-Nachricht --------> Datum: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:05:21 +0000> Von: Neil Foddering <neilfoddering@hotmail.com>> An: billydavid13@comcast.net, Rendezvous Classic <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>> Betreff: Re: [CR] The French.> > Now you've gone and offended us Limeys: the derailleur - England 1896; the> pneumatic tyre - invented in England in 1845, but thank John Boyd Dunlop> for commercial development late 1880s; butted tubing - England 1897; 531> tubing (as used by French builders for top of the range machines) - England> 1935; caliper brake - England 1876; internal hub gearing - England 1896;> chain - England 1880; wire-spoked wheel - England 1870.> > As for the rest of Europe: ball bearings - Germany 1872; seamless tubing -> Germany 1886; freewheel - Germany 1898: quick release hubs - Italy> (Campagnolo).> > So what is it that's pretty much essential to bikes which originated> there? :-)> > Neil Foddering> Weymouth, Dorset, England> > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 23:45:26 +0000> > From: billydavid13@comcast.net> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> > Subject: [CR] The French.> > > > Hi all. I don't want to stir up any controversy, but i am i the only one> who finds "frog" objectionable? The French may have contributed virtually> nothing to rock and roll but pretty much everything essential to bikes> originated there. They deserve a bit more respect. Billy [i'd rather be lost> stumbling drunk in Paris than doing anything else anywhere else] Ketchum;> Chicago, IL; USA. > > _______________________________________________> > _________________________________________________________________> View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place \u2013 Learn more!> http://clk.atdmt.com/