Nels, I really hope you can get that article and make it or its content available.
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Emilio Bozzi <emiliobozzi@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> RE:
>
> Veloflex clinchers were then steets ahead of other clinchers
> and close in performance to the best tubulars {underline edit}
>
>
> Hilary, thanks for your response, and one that is a very noble and common
> refrain.
>
> Please don't feel that I am singling you out, as I am not, but I have lost
> count of how many times I have heard that modern clinchers ride "just as
> good as" or "almost just as good as any sew-up".
>
>
>
> Allow me to pose a simple question to CR listers and ask them how many time
> they have heard just the opposite:
>
> "I really like these sew-ups they ride just as good as clinchers!"
>
> I sure as heck have never heard anyone say that.
>
> And there is an obvious simple reason:
>
> Clinchers have never ridden, handled or performed as good any sew-ups in my
> experience, ever.
>
>
>
> Those folks that have changed out their beautiful steeds OEM with sew-ups
> for those bizarre clincher contraptions---and you know who you are---should
> be shot at dawn! But not before you bequeath me the sew-ups you haven't yet
> thrown away. (-:
>
>
> Nels Cone
> Seattle WA
>
>
>
> p.s. years ago, I wrote a rather indepth article on sew-ups versus
> clinchers, complete with graphics for the Bicycle Trader. I do not know if
> Bradley Woehl is still on this list, but if he is, maybe he can dig it out
> and send it to us.
>
> > Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 19:04:11 +0100
> > From: hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk
> > To: greg@nofatmusic.com
> > CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Subject: Re: [CR] Tubulars v Clinchers
> >
> > When we did rolling resistence tests at Cycling Plus magazine in the
> > 1990s the Veloflex clinchers were then steets ahead of other clinchers
> > and close in performance to the best tubulars - and certainly offered
> > better performance than the cheap tubulars...
> >
> > Hilary Stone, Bristol, British Isles
> >
> > Greg Arnold wrote:
> > > Ahh! The conundrum of logic and language!
> > >
> > >> Hi Michael,
> > >>
> > >> If you have never used anything other than tubulars on your bikes then
> how
> > >> do you know that nothing else compares with their ride quality ?
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Ken Hume
> > >> London, England
> > >
> > > Ill leave it to Michael to respond - but I know he's been riding a long
> > > time, bought his first few Masi's from Falerio personally, and has had
> a lot
> > > of experience. I'm guessing he, like many of us, had ridden other
> peoples
> > > bikes with clinchers and decided long ago they were inferior rides!
> > >
> > > But it brings up a topic I didn't find a lot of archive info on --
> > >
> > > I'm interested in is what kind of tires the listers have found to be
> > > 'stellar' rides from among the few brand choices left these days.
> > >
> > > I am curious because I've been running my own - costly! - test by
> swapping
> > > various sets of wheels on my fav rides to compare. This is primarily
> because
> > > I bought a stunning 63 cinelli last month - completely original except
> with
> > > Spence Wolf clinchers (the horror!) built on 60s hubs with the usual
> spence
> > > wolf touch of soldered spokes. I was told they were built in 1990, so
> I'm
> > > halfway off topic, but I expect a list variance! (since the wheels are
> on a
> > > 1963 SC) My first clinchers ever.
> > >
> > > Ive also been a sew-ups only rider all my life, but I must say, with
> > > veloflex pave tires these clincher wheels are really tight, ride
> > > beautifully, are pretty to look at, look just like low profile
> tubulars, and
> > > I'm told have a reliably long life. I've swapped the wheel set among
> several
> > > 60s and 70s bikes I own, and find them quite nice. I'm 6'2/185 so I
> ride
> > > larger bikes @62-63cm and I guess for even heavier riders/large bikes
> these
> > > clinchers may be a nice alternative.
> > >
> > > I have also found Tufo Pro 33s to be bullet proof, very well balanced
> and
> > > consistently made, thin profiled, and lovely. Plus they are cheap. My
> only
> > > gripe is cosmetic - the tan sidewalls oxidize over time and turn almost
> > > black. Anyone else have this issue? Or tried cleaning them with any
> luck?
> > > Please let me know how its done!
> > >
> > > Next I bought some larger profile vintage Clemente grifo 61s last month
> to
> > > further the experiment. Much larger profile, decent well balanced tires
> and
> > > period correct, handsome, but no great ride improvement.
> > >
> > > Finally I have been also riding Gommitalia Platinums. Premium tires,
> perfect
> > > balance, thin profile, very pretty in tan and black, and my top
> > > recommendation if cost isn't an issue. They average $100/ a piece.
> > >
> > > So - anyone else care to chime in? Would love to know what people are
> riding
> > > these days and why.
> > >
> > > Gorgeous day in NYC, I'm off to soak up some road on the Veloflex
> Paves!
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Greg Arnold NYC
> > > greg@nofatmusic.com
> > > http://www.nofatmusic.com
> > >
> > >
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