I beg to disagree about the DT decal. The simple gold "Peugeot" is from the 60's. The early/mid 70's DT decal was a white "Peugeot" on a black background, flanked by gold bands:
The 60's style might have been used in 1970, but 1971 to maybe 1975 was the never style.
Regards,
Jerry Moos
> From: verktyg@aol.com <verktyg@aol.com>
\r?\n> Subject: Re: [CR] 60s or 70s Peugeot PX10? - Pieced together bike?
\r?\n> To: bikes@msu.edu, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
\r?\n> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 3:58 PM
\r?\n> Tim,
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Not trying to throw water on your fire, but to me this
\r?\n> really looks like a pieced together bike.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Aside from the brakes, Campy components, and seat post,
\r?\n> there are too many inconsistencies on this bike.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> For instance, this style fork crown wasn't used until the
\r?\n> 1970s. Earlier models used fancy Nervex Professional crowns
\r?\n> to match the lugs.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> The paint and decals look "too good" for a bike this old.
\r?\n> After 25-35 years of exposure, paint loses some of it's
\r?\n> luster. Look at the joint between the down tube/head tube
\r?\n> lug, this area usually collects dirt and debris plus polish
\r?\n> build up. It's still glossy on your bike.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> From what I've read, in 1967 Peugeot started painting all
\r?\n> of their pro model variants white or white with black lugs
\r?\n> like their team bikes. Prior to that they were this color
\r?\n> blue with black lugs like yours. Before that they were blue
\r?\n> with dark yellow lugs. In the mid 70s they started offering
\r?\n> PX-10s in several different colors. That's not to say that
\r?\n> Peugeot didn't make any bikes this color during the interim
\r?\n> years.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Between 1967 and ~1979 Peugeot used simple gold with black
\r?\n> outline, block letter decals on their down tubes. This decal
\r?\n> is from the 1970s.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Last, the "bird mouth" stem, it's probably an AVA but it
\r?\n> has a solid rear area behind the expander bolt. Most of the
\r?\n> later cast aluminum stems like this were hollow. Also,
\r?\n> PX-10s came with the handlebar bolt horizontal not vertical
\r?\n> like this one.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> I, like many other CR members have pieced together bikes
\r?\n> before. They usually turned out to be great, enjoyable
\r?\n> riding bikes. For some reason in our area in the 70s, most
\r?\n> PX-10 owners tended to keep them all original - ALL FRENCH!
\r?\n>
\r?\n> It was a different story with the comparable Gitane Tour de
\r?\n> France models. The first thing most serious riders did was
\r?\n> to replace the Torquemada torture device Gitane called a
\r?\n> saddle with either a Brooks Pro or a Cinelli Unicanitor.
\r?\n> Next was SunTour V or Campy derailleurs.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Congratulations, you have a genuine Batard! It should be a
\r?\n> very enjoyable steed for many years to come. ;-)
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Chas. Colerich
\r?\n> Oakland, CA USA
\r?\n>
\r?\n>
\r?\n> -----Original Message-----
\r?\n> From: Tim Potter
\r?\n> Sent: Sun, Aug 23, 2009 5:24 pm
\r?\n> Subject: [CR] 60s or 70s Peugeot PX10?
\r?\n>
\r?\n> I just finished photographing a Peugeot that we've acquired
\r?\n> thru a donation
\r?\n> which I suspect to be a PX10 due to the 'inoxydable' decal
\r?\n> and other
\r?\n> features as follows:
\r?\n> http://www.bikes.msu.edu/
\r?\n>
\r?\n> The 6 digit serial number would seem to indicate a 60's
\r?\n> vintage frame but
\r?\n> the decals indicate it's early 70s. It's obviously
\r?\n> been quite modified w/
\r?\n> the Campag components & Universal Super 68 brakes.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Unfortunately there are some bulges under the top and
\r?\n> downtubes near the
\r?\n> head tube indicating pretty serious frame damage, although
\r?\n> the original fork
\r?\n> looks straight to the head tube. I'm
\r?\n> contemplating trying to straighten
\r?\n> the frame; we have a frame straightener modeled after the
\r?\n> Park tool that
\r?\n> they've stopped making. I would appreciate any advice
\r?\n> on whether
\r?\n> straightening these tubes using such a tool is likely to be
\r?\n> effective w/ the
\r?\n> amount of damage as the photos kind of show.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> The seat tube decal with "Carlton " and "England Worksop"
\r?\n> on it is quite
\r?\n> strange; anyone have any theories of Carlton's involvement
\r?\n> with Peugeot's of
\r?\n> this era or was there possibly a retail shop in England
\r?\n> named Carlton
\r?\n> selling them where this bike might have been purchased?
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Thanks for any input,
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Tim Potter