Re: [CR] Churchill Frame

(Example: Production Builders:Teledyne)

Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:30:20 +0100
From: "Hilary Stone" <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: Alan Lloyd <adl2k@yahoo.com>
References: <690862.17511.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <690862.17511.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Cc: Ken Foster <kenf3@me.com>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Churchill Frame


This Churchill frame is fitted with the Stallard long point rear dropouts. The long curved horns were first used as far as I know by Super Champion on dropouts designed for use with the Super Champion Osgear - there were several variations but at least two were essentially vertical dropouts. Both Claude Butler and Stallard then copied the idea of the long horns on pure horizontal dropouts...

Hilary Stone, Bristol, British Isles

PS There is now a history of Fred Pratt and his shop which has been published by the Veteran-Cycle Club.

Alan Lloyd wrote:
>> Now what are those 'horns' on the rear fork stays?
>
> If you look at the "C.B. CONTINENTAL" ENDS at the bottom of the middle column at http://classicrendezvous.com/British_isles/Butler_Claud/c_butler_excl_feat.htm or http://tinyurl.com/mubgtn you will see an example of these 'prongs'", claimed to be a Claude Butler innovation and an aid to locating & installing the rear wheel ...
>
> "A light, but intensely practical and rigid Continental type solid steel rear end providing instantaneous location of the rear wheel by rolling the spindle into position behind the prongs. A "C.B." design that superceded all others by reason of its great strength, neat appearance and practicability. Continental appeal combined with "C.B." efficiency and reliability."
>
> I was born in Balham/Wandsworth, grew up in Crawley and I worked in the General Accident building just east of East Croydon station, at the end of George Street, in the 1970s - and I don't recall any bike shop.
>
> I do, however, vaguely remember the bike shop in Salfords (near Redhill), where I worked, owned by Fred Pratt who was married to Claude Butler's sister.
>
> Alan Lloyd
> Schaumburg, Illinois, U.S.A.