Ok, I probably should have explained what I'm trying to do, sorry. I have a frame - Hetchins - with a single brazed-on cable guide on the bottom of the BB, for the rear cable. I want to set it up with downtube shifters and rear and front derailleurs. I can route the cable to the rear der via the brazed-on guide. For the front though I will have to use a derailleur with a cable stop (I have a suitable Suntour Superbe that has a removable cable stop, or maybe I could find an early Campy NR or GS), with a clamp-on cable stop down on the dt, and a short piece of cable housing between the two. Exactly like shown in this picture:
http://www.little500.com/
I should have explained this all in my first post, I apologize for not doing that (hope now I've made it clear enough <g>).
As for filing off the left stop from a 629 - it will work, but won't look as nice because the stops on 629 are, so to say, at 3 and 9 o'clock positions whereas the single stop on 628 is lower (7-8 o'clock), which would put the front cable more in line with the rear as the cables go from the shifters to the BB (hope this explanation makes sense). But yes, in a pinch I could/would use a 629.
Finally, if anybody can suggest a different approach I'd appreciate that too. (E.g. how to route the front cable under the BB which only has a braze-on for the rear, short of brazing on one for the front.)
-- Cheers, Dmitry Yaitskov, Toronto, Canada.
Saturday, September 26, 2009, 7:13:32 PM, billydavid13@comcast.net wrote:
> Hi Dmitry, all. I thought you were looking for a cable hosing stop
> for a left side [front] mounted bar-end shifter, kind of an oddity.
> That's not what it is, I see now that part# 628 mounts on the bottom
> of the downtube near the bb shell to be used w/ a short stretch of
> housing to the early Record or GS front der. w/ an integrated
> housing stop. Presumably this is used w/ the left side shift lever
> shown in the pic. And presumably used w/ a rod type rear der., e.g.
> Paris-Roubaix. I apologise for my earlier incomprehension. It's just
> that you mostly see either double guides/stops or right side only. I don't suppose you'd want to use
> a generic double guide and grind off the rear cable guide on the
> right? Billy Ketchum; Chicago, IL; USA,----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dmitry Yaitskov" <dima@rogers.com>
> To: billydavid13@comcast.net
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:19:14 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re[2]: [CR] WTB: Campagnolo downtube clamp-on front cable stop (part 628)
> Hi Billy, all,
> Hm. I'm not sure. I looked it up again - here's the page I was
> referring to:
> http://dima.softmaster.co.uk/
> Note that it shows a front der, plus - as I understand - 3 different
> options for controllling it (on my pic, just the first option is
> shown). The clamp on stop I'm looking for (628) is shown with the
> front of the (imaginary) bike to the right I think. I.e. the cable
> stop would be on the left side of the downtube. Also, I'm not sure
> what would be its purpose for the rear der?
> Also, I looked up catalog 16 which I have a scan of in English. On
> page 31:
> http://dima.softmaster.co.uk/
> part 628 is also listed, and is called "Front changer clip".
> What am I missing?
> Anyway... if anybody has one for sale please let me know.
> Thanks.
> Saturday, September 26, 2009, 1:02:52 PM, billydavid13@comcast.net wrote:
>> Hi Dmitry, all. My copy of Campy Catalog #14 [from Chuck Schmidt's
>> Velo Retro] is in Italian as yours may be. So I can't be exactly
>> sure what they're referring to. But Catalog #15 [also from Chuck] is
>> in English and quite clear. Part#629 is the lovely double downntube
>> cable stop. Part#628 is a single downtube cable stop. W/ the
>> clamping bolt in the normal position under the downtube it's a right
>> hand [i.e. rear der.] cable stop. W/ the bolt above the downtube
>> [flipped] it'll serve as a left/front der. cable stop. though not so
>> pretty. There is no specific left front cable stop. If you look back
>> at page 16 in Cat.#14 you'll see 2 pics of #628 in different
>> rotations but they're both right hand. You could always do the
>> unthinkable and file off the right stop on a #629. Good luck. Billy Ketchum; Chicago, IL; USA.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dmitry Yaitskov" <dima@rogers.com>
>> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:49:13 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>> Subject: [CR] WTB: Campagnolo downtube clamp-on front cable stop (part 628)
>> Hi,
>> I'm looking for Campagnolo part# 628 - it's a downtube clamp-on cable
>> stop (not guide) for the front cable only (shown on page 16 of Campy
>> catalogue 14). Please let me know if you have one for sale, many
>> thanks.