Re: [CR] More Huret Jubilee Mysteries - Can Anyone Solve ?

(Example: Production Builders:Cinelli)

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:25:39 -0700
From: "verktyg" <verktyg@aol.com>
To: r cielec <teaat4p@yahoo.com>, <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, <verktyg@aol.com>
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Subject: Re: [CR] More Huret Jubilee Mysteries - Can Anyone Solve ?


Richard,

I think the terms long and short cage are confusing the issue.

Huret made standard close ratio Jubilee rear derailleurs with several different capacity pulley cages. I listed the part numbers (Ref. numbers) for the 3 different models in a previous message.

Ref 2200: 13-24T FW 36-53T CR Ref 2252: 13-28T FW 36-53T CR Ref 2240: 13-24T FW 36-53T CR "patte italienne" for Campy dropouts

Huret ALSO made a "long cage" Super Touring model Jubilee derailleur with about a 5"(125mm) long pulley cage. Besides being flimsy it didn't have any bigger rear sprocket capacity than the standard Jubilee models.

Unlike the Japanese makes, most French long cage RDs were designed to swallow up a lot of chain for a wide difference in chainring sizes but not span a big difference in freewheel sprockets.

Ref 2248: 13-24T FW 26-53T CR Ref 2253: 13-28T FW 26-53T CR Ref 2254: 13-24T FW 26-53T CR "patte italienne" for Campy dropouts

I don't know if the Ref numbers are on these derailleurs or not. So it still comes down to trial and error.

Remember, these were designed to work with Huret dropouts. The distance from the center of the hub axle to the center of the dropout mounting bolt varied as well as the location on the gear hanger front to rear.

There were no standards until Shimano forced the issue with their SIS products.

So mounting a Huret Jubilee on a Campy dropout is still going to be a matter of trial and error.

Same thing with the mounting washer.

Chas. Colerich Oakland, CA USA

r cielec wrote:
> Ahoy !
>
> As mentioned by several listers, Huret offered Jubilee rear ders - both short and long cage - in rear sprocket max. capacities of 24t and 28t.
>
> In the several on-line, exploded parts catalogue views I found, Huret does not cite different part numbers for either the 24t and the 28t versions; that is: one parts list for both capacity ders.
>
> So, does anyone know how to identify and distinguish the 24t Jubilee from the 28t Jubilee? (That is besides trial and error: If it rubs on the 28, it must be the 24).
>
> Thanks.
>
> Richard Cielec
> Chicago, Illlinois; U.S.A.