Re: [CR] Dura Ace road Hubs size question

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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:39:49 -0700
From: "verktyg" <verktyg@aol.com>
To: David Snyder <dddd@pacbell.net>, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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Subject: Re: [CR] Dura Ace road Hubs size question


The French standard for front hubs was 96mm. Some Japanese front hubs also came in 96mm width, perhaps for sale in France?

The 116mm rear is odd.

I've seen a few "funny" TT bikes with narrow hubs. I horse traded for a set of wheels that came off of one of them. When I got them I home I discovered that they were narrower than normal width.

Chas. Colerich Oakland, CA USA

David Snyder wrote:
> In my own experience, I've seen quite a few front hubs and forks spaced
> at 96mm from the 1970's.
> This was very common on lower-spec ten-speeds.
> I've also seen rear hubs on unmolested bikes spaced at 114-116mm and
> wearing 5-speed freewheels.
> I have no idea on the origins of these seemingly anomalous spec's, but
> considering that many, many five-speed-equipped, production rear wheels
> will instantly accept standard 6-speed freewheels with room to spare, a
> narrower 116mm spec won't be any worse than that, dish-wise, if the
> hubshell (and 5-speed freewheel) is positioned a few millimeters closer
> to the right within the slightly narrower spacing.
> Shimano would have been happy to supply hubs to any customer's OEM
> spec's, and early Dura-Ace parts were periodically spec'd on a variety
> of otherwise very low-spec bicycles in the '70's.
>
> David Snyder
> Auburn, CA usa
>
>
> Tom Harriman wrote:
>
>> Dura Ace hubs were all manufactured for standard sized rear triangles
>> and front forks. There were never any off sized hubs or frames.
>>
>> The problem is not the hubs, it's the frame and fork. I'm guessing
>> her because I haven't seen them, but I would say the the frame and
>> fork weren't properly spaced when they arrived at the bike shop, and
>> then an inexperienced mechanic removed spacers from the hubs in order
>> for them to fit the frame and fork.
>>
>
>> Charles Nighbor wrote:
>
>>> Mearsuring my NIB 70's Dura-Ace hubs from the 1970's I get a rear
>>> spacing of 116mm. I also get 96mm for front. Is that a typical
>>> dimension for 70's. I thought 100mm front and 120mm or 126mm was 70's
>>> normal.
>>> I checked 9 times.. I would like to use or sell them but with those
>>> spacings I would 1st need to replace both axes and add spacers to
>>> rear get to 100mm front and either 120mm or 126mm rear.
>>> The total length of the axles is not long enough to make standard
>>> spacing100 mm Front and 120 mm rear work. I have a set of same hubs
>>> but correct 100mm front and120mm rear and you can see the difference
>>> in the length of axles. My axles are 1/4'' shorter. My guess is made
>>> for special run of frames. Box doesn't give axle length. My only fix
>>> is new axles.