Re: [CR] Sid's Bikes

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:17:49 +0000 (GMT)
From: "barrie carter" <barriemgracer@yahoo.co.uk>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <394870.67926.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Sid's Bikes


Rteired from bikes my bum peice, Your re still as good as ever. \\\\\\\\\\\dont forget I have[and its for sale] the special frame you built for Colin Lewis. Falcon, as so many names were, had thei good frames built by outsiders, and I know the 70s bikes were Terry Dolan bikes, I had Sids and spoke to Terry about it. But all these unknown frame builders, who built some great frames deserve my allocation of FKW, as do most of the modern frames. I wonder if, in 30 years the same arguments will be in place about modern day frame builkders. Will some one write in to the forum and say his Pinarello was actually built by Hen Chong, who had a squat in downtown Shanghi and his mates built various other frames that were issued to all manner of manufacturers/ All FKWs, and you thought it was a joke. Barrie Carter, Sunny, warm, Roundham UK


--- On Sat, 17/4/10, Colin Laing wrote:


From: Colin Laing <colin_laing@yahoo.com> Subject: [CR] Sid's Bikes To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Date: Saturday, 17 April, 2010, 23:38

Hello all,

Just to roil the mud a bit more regarding Sid Barras' bikes....I worked with him extensively from his early days with his team TEESIDE CYCLONES,,,then he turned pro at a very early age.He had been called in as a reserve for the MILK RACE  and got to ride...winning a stage. When he rode for BANTEL with Danny Horton, Reggie Smith  and Hugh  Porter, he asked me to make him a frame,,but I had to clear it with Porter as his name would be on it...Hugh's only concern was who would be paying for it...it was a gift.and so he rode on that frame for quite some time. When Sid went to RALEIGH on the Continent under Peter Post, he asked me again to make him a frame in the team colours,,,but I had to stamp Jan Le Grand in the bottom bracket to appease Post....Dave ( forgot his surname) and Phil Bayton had frames made by Harry Quinn. ( badged Raleigh). When Sid retired from serious racing ( he still wins at 62 years old by the way ) ,,he took over Wes Mason's shop in Harrogate Yorkshire and I produced quite a number of SID BARRAS  frames for his retail shop. He inherited a farm with his wife Linda and they converted barns for bed and breakfast. I lost contact with Sid over the years since I emigrated to Arizona but see him at least once a year on the local Bash...he now rides a very nice Carbon rig. There were some good builders at Falcon and the frames the team rode were probably true to the name...but no-body knows these things,,,too much intrigue . In those days, there were many, many frame builders who were all about as good as each other and perhaps all could claim that this Pro or that Pro rode on one of their bikes but with different decals....I could probably list about 20 riders in Britain or on the Continent riding at that time on my bikes...Carbon...massed produced stuff has altered everything.....for the worst I think.

Colin Laing, enjoying being retired from bikes....Arizona..U.S.A