[CR] Was Scams appearing on Craigslist and eBay once again.. Now Look! Honest people on Craigslist too!

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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 11:20:50 -0400
From: "Rodd Heino" <rodd.heino@gmail.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: [CR] Was Scams appearing on Craigslist and eBay once again.. Now Look! Honest people on Craigslist too!


Hi all,

Kevin and John had some thoughts on dishonesty on Craigslist, and while I don't doubt that it is true, I just thought I'd offer a hopeful message I just found on MY local Craigslist:

Anyone in Ottawa/Gatineau missing a Cinelli? (I'm sure it's an on topic one...)

http://ottawa.en.craigslist.ca/bik/1704109756.html

(in case it expires, the text is pasted below)

Date: 2010-04-22, 12:02AM EDT Reply to: sale-ebrug-1704109756@craigslist.org<sale-ebrug-1704109756@craigslist.org?subject=%20Found%20Cinelli%20with%20Campagnolo%20Setup%20%28Byward%20Market%29&body=%0A%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fottawa.craigslist.ca%2Fbik%2F1704109756.html%0A> [Errors when replying to ads?<http://www.craigslist.org/about/help/replying_to_posts> ] ------------------------------

I have found someones baby. She looks to have been stolen and then ditched. If you think this is yours, I would like to get it back to you. I have a feeling that the owner knows every inch of this bike. I would like a full description of it including the serial # if you have it.

thanks Jesus Murphy

PostingID: 1704109756

Rodd Heino
Ottawa Canada


----- Original Message -----


> From: "John D Proch" <johnprochss@yahoo.com>
> To: "Kevin Kruger" <ktk1_7_0_2_8@yahoo.com>,
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 5:29:19 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [CR] Scams appeairing on Craigslist and eBay once again
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> That's scary. My friends tell me that when the economy is sour, the
> crooks seem to surface out of the woodwork. What ever happened
> to just a simple honest individual? We try and check everything we
> sell from our addiction hobby of vintage cycles, but when someone comes
> up with this "Hey it is not what we expected" or, "Why were you trying
> to pull the bait and switch on us for"? and the classic one was "The frame
> is cracked
> why did you pull that on us"?? (Was the frame really cracked when we sent
> it?)
> We try and make it right, but the dishonest are both in the selling and the
> buying. The greed of Ebay
> that we often talk about stems from their huge overhead with claims.
> Sometimes, more often than not, it might be best we just trade within
> ourselves
> and be happy with what we have and not be hungry for more.
> My wife says "Honey, how many bikes can you ride at a time"? I say "At
> least a couple dozen"!
>
> Best Regards,
> John Proch
> La Grange, Texas
>
>
>
>
>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 7:44:08 PM
> Subject: [CR] Scams appeairing on Craigslist and eBay once again
>
> Seems like the scam sales and auctions are becoming more commonplace on
> both Craigslist and eBay once again (at least I thought they weren't as
> commonplace as they once were).
>
> Ray Dobbins Colnago Mexicois currently being featured for sale on
> Craigslist for $500.00:
>
> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/1699470621.html
>
> A Rene Herse keeps popping up on eBay with direct BIN option offered in the
> description.
>
> Also discovered a 1962 Paramount track bike on Craigslist that was lifted
> off a legitimate eBay seller, and offered for sale via a Florida female
> seller for $800.00. She claimed she was deaf, thus could not talk about the
> bike over the phone, and was away from the bike and couldn't meet with
> anyone to personally inspect the bike's condition.
>
> If it's to good to be true, then it probably isn't.
>
> Sad world we live in due to these crooks. Hopefully honest folks will not
> fall prey to them!
>
> Regards,
> Kevin Kruger - Grantville, PA