and, all the mo' beta' to sell on-list!
J.B. Froke, Ph.D. Pebble Beach, California
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> 1. 1099, Income tax and eBay Re: Ebay - Another issue
> (Thomas Adams)
> 2. eBay 1099s coming in 2011 (Thomas Adams)
> 3. FS: Pog frame d663 61cm (Roman Stankus)
> 4. Re: 1934 RRA (Hugh Thornton)
> 5. RRA and Blaud Cutler on Ebay (crumpy6204@aol.com)
> 6. Ebay sales (W PAUL PATZKOWSKY)
> 7. Re: Pressing in Viscount bearings... (David Snyder)
> 8. Re: USA only Ebay sales (John Hurley)
> 9. NOS Ambrosio clincher rims (John Hurley)
> 10. FW: FS: Pog frame d663 61cm - follow up info (Roman Stankus)
> 11. USA only sales on E-Bay (Tom Sanders)
> 12. tire pressure gauge sought (EPL)
> 13. Re: USA only Ebay sales (Jean-Marie)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:27:58 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Thomas Adams <thomasthomasa@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [CR] 1099, Income tax and eBay Re: Ebay - Another issue
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, W PAUL PATZKOWSKY
> <oldtrikerider@q.com>
> Message-ID: <752349.87344.qm@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Dear Paul:
> ?
> DISCLAIMER:? I am not a tax professional and this is not intended as tax advice for anyone in particular.? Consult with a pro if you have questions.
> ?
> I don't think you would get a 1099 from the IRS.? The 1099 form is basically a report of money paid from the person who paid you, with a copy to the IRS.? If that money does not subsequently show up on your tax return for the year, the IRS may come calling.? Usual 1099s are from financial institutions for interest, dividends and cap gains,?and from persons who hired you as an independent contractor.? The dollar threshold used to be a round $600 for contractors and $10 for financial institutions for interest, dividends and such.? Failing to send a 1099 if the IRS says you should will also get you in trouble with the IRS.
> ?
> In the auction context, it would have to be eBay issuing the 1099s, if you sold above X dollars in a year.? Then on your taxes you would deduct any transactional costs and the original cost of the item(s) to see if you made a profit, and owed tax.? I don't know if the IRS has tried to require ebay to send 1099 forms to big sellers.? Profit or loss from hobbies that are not a major source of income are usually not required to be on your tax return, on the assumption that most people lose money on hobbies.? But if you sell several Herses of California Masi's in a year, it wouldn't surprise me if the IRS decided to ask what your profit was on the sale.
> ?
> Tom Adams
> Manhattan, KS USA
>
> --- On Tue, 5/4/10, W PAUL PATZKOWSKY <oldtrikerider@q.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: W PAUL PATZKOWSKY <oldtrikerider@q.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Ebay - Another issue
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 3:39 PM
>
>
>
> ???I've already sent a personal reply to Greg regarding the original question, basically covering some of the same points that others have addressed.? I'm curious about something else, however.? Has anyone ever recieved a 1099 or similar document from the IRS for Ebay sales?
>
>
>
> Paul Patzkowsky
>
> Longmont, Colorado
> ??? ???????? ?????? ??? ?
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:35:06 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Thomas Adams <thomasthomasa@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [CR] eBay 1099s coming in 2011
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, W PAUL PATZKOWSKY
> <oldtrikerider@q.com>
> Message-ID: <202294.67315.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Ahh, it looks like eBay is supposed to start sending 1099s for the 2011 tax year.? If you sell on ebay, start saving information on how much you paid for items and how much ebay, paypal and the shipping service charged you in fees for your 2011 return.
> ?
> http://ebay.about.com/
> ?
> Thomas Adams
> Manhattan, KS USA
>
> --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Thomas Adams <thomasthomasa@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Thomas Adams <thomasthomasa@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [CR] 1099, Income tax and eBay Re: Ebay - Another issue
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, "W PAUL PATZKOWSKY" <oldtrikerider@q.com>
> Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 4:27 PM
>
>
> Dear Paul:
> ?
> DISCLAIMER:? I am not a tax professional and this is not intended as tax advice for anyone in particular.? Consult with a pro if you have questions.
> ?
> I don't think you would get a 1099 from the IRS.? The 1099 form is basically a report of money paid from the person who paid you, with a copy to the IRS.? If that money does not subsequently show up on your tax return for the year, the IRS may come calling.? Usual 1099s are from financial institutions for interest, dividends and cap gains,?and from persons who hired you as an independent contractor.? The dollar threshold used to be a round $600 for contractors and $10 for financial institutions for interest, dividends and such.? Failing to send a 1099 if the IRS says you should will also get you in trouble with the IRS.
> ?
> In the auction context, it would have to be eBay issuing the 1099s, if you sold above X dollars in a year.? Then on your taxes you would deduct any transactional costs and the original cost of the item(s) to see if you made a profit, and owed tax.? I don't know if the IRS has tried to require ebay to send 1099 forms to big sellers.? Profit or loss from hobbies that are not a major source of income are usually not required to be on your tax return, on the assumption that most people lose money on hobbies.? But if you sell several Herses of California Masi's in a year, it wouldn't surprise me if the IRS decided to ask what your profit was on the sale.
> ?
> Tom Adams
> Manhattan, KS USA
>
> --- On Tue, 5/4/10, W PAUL PATZKOWSKY <oldtrikerider@q.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: W PAUL PATZKOWSKY <oldtrikerider@q.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Ebay - Another issue
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 3:39 PM
>
>
>
> ???I've already sent a personal reply to Greg regarding the original question, basically covering some of the same points that others have addressed.? I'm curious about something else, however.? Has anyone ever recieved a 1099 or similar document from the IRS for Ebay sales?
>
>
>
> Paul Patzkowsky
>
> Longmont, Colorado
> ??? ???????? ?????? ??? ?
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
> ? ? ?
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 17:44:51 -0400
> From: "Roman Stankus" <rstankus@mindspring.com>
> Subject: [CR] FS: Pog frame d663 61cm
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <E1O9PvG-0005KY-Ig@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I am offering the following frame for sale - pictures can be seen on my
> webshots site @ http://community.webshots.com/
>
> This bike comes with a story. When I got back into cycling and vintage bikes
> in 2003, I had the good fortune to find this frame for sale on ebay and to
> win it. I rode this bike for about six months before being hit by a car in
> an intersection. I was really shaken (and banged up) by the accident and I
> was very upset that the frame was damaged considerably. The front fork was
> bent, the front triangle was crunched - the rear triangle was fine. I'd
> really gotten comfortable riding that bike and missed riding it. The driver
> that hit me was at fault - so insurance paid for reapirs if I wanted to do
> that. After talking with Brian Baylis, I sent it off to him to make the
> repairs and to restore the bike to as close to original as possible. For
> reasons not entirely clear to me, it took several years for the project to
> come to completion. Well, in the meantime, I had been busy adding to my
> small collection and now had several other bikes that had become my everyday
> riders - mainly my mid/late 80's DeRosa Pro. When the bike came back, it was
> beautiful, but I never got around to building her back up and getting her
> back on the road. After several years as wall art, I'd love to find this
> bike a new home.
>
> It's hard to value this bike - it's not all original, at the same time, I
> know that the work done by Brian is of equal or better quality in every
> respect to the original. I think Brian made every effort to make his work
> relate to the original build quality so that the results look natural to the
> marque.
>
> Brian reused all the lugs as well as the unique fork blades and dropouts
> from the original frame. He used matching tubes and a matching fork crown
> and steerer. Pogs had a lot of different decals - the ones on the frame
> match the originals - some were made up custom from photos of the originals
> by SSSink(?). The color in the photos does not do justice to the actual
> "electric blue" that was a signature Pog and Colnago color of the time. The
> bike comes with a used NR bottom bracket and headset - both in good/very
> good condition. I have $1500 in this repair/restoration and I am asking for
> that (includes domestic shipping).
>
> This bike is from the '74/'75 timeframe. The bottom bracket markings and
> serial # (d663) can be seen in the photos. Please let me know if you have
> any questions about the frame or need any other information.
>
> Thanks for looking!
>
> Roman L Stankus
> Atlanta, Georgia USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 21:51:30 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Hugh Thornton <hughwthornton@yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [CR] 1934 RRA
> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <306367.88557.qm@web25901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> ?
> Raleigh's top models were excellent quality bikes but?I think they exemplify all that was historically wrong with British industry?- far too conservative and behind the times.? These bikes just do not compare well in terms of style, features and modernity with top tier European racing machines of the same era.? I am hard pressed to see any significant progress between this bike and a circa 1908 BSA I sold a little while ago.? With the exception of the products of a few custom builders, the majority of British bikes lagged behind for decades.? In the 40s and 50s, Carlton and Viking were probably the only volume manufacturers who built anything that was competitive in style and specification with European product.? It is interesting that Raleigh's only racing success during that period was on the track, under a variety of excellent riders,?and in time trials under Ray Booty who predominantly rode fixed wheel, with or without a Sturmey Archer gear.
> ?
> It is very sad that Britain's biggest bicycle manufacturer was so reactionary.? A mid 50s Raleigh road bike looks a bit of a joke beside an equivalent Bianchi, Legnano, Frejus, Helyett etc etc.? The RRA had to become Moderne (though it wasn't particularly) before it got a derailleur gear, a decade or two late.
> ?
> That said, I would really like an early 50s RRA and am keeping an eye open for a tatty frame so that it would not be total sacriledge to modify it with period Campagnolo or Simplex dropouts and fit the appropriate gears and contemporary high quality aluminum alloy parts and turn it into the bike it ought to have been.? That would be quite a bike with geometry that suits me well.? And I wouldn't have to source all those impossible to find parts either because everything I wanted would be better and easier to obtain.? Are those howls of protest I hear?
> ?
> Hugh Thornton
> Cheshire, England
> ?
> ?
> ?
>
>
> --- On Tue, 4/5/10, P.C. Kohler <kohl57@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: P.C. Kohler <kohl57@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [CR] 1934 RRA
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Tuesday, 4 May, 2010, 15:44
>
>
> Enthusiasts of the Raleigh Record Ace might wish to take a look at this well presented and well preserved early example as well as the catalogue scans.
>
> http://ebay.com/
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/
>
> Peter Kohler
> Washington DC USA
>
>
> ? ? ?
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 18:23:29 -0400
> From: crumpy6204@aol.com
> Subject: [CR] RRA and Blaud Cutler on Ebay
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Message-ID: <8CCB9EF8EECE46B-1D38-4BE4@webmail-d020.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> The RRA to me looks fine OLD like me, BUT the Claud is a mess, the frame is outstanding but the kit is all wrong. Cheers OldgrouchBrit, Parker Co USA
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 22:28:12 +0000
> From: W PAUL PATZKOWSKY <oldtrikerider@q.com>
> Subject: [CR] Ebay sales
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <SNT112-W2508D45E0FAF638A8D245DAAF30@phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> One of my pet peeves, if an annoyance can be salleduch, is the Shipping Wizard. It seems to consistently yield shipping quotes that are higher than the actual costs. The buyer complains to the seller, sometimes accusing him/her of price gouging, and the whole transaction ceases to be fun. I usually tell my potential buyers to wait for my invoice now to avoid having to give refunds later.
>
> Then there's the guy who thinks that his item can be shipped via Priority Mail for $5 when it's obviously too large/heavy to meet that category's criteria.
>
>
>
> Paul Patzkowsky
>
> Longmont, Colorado
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 15:53:38 -0700
> From: "David Snyder" <dddd@pacbell.net>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Pressing in Viscount bearings...
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <3ECB1BA04613435B92262E1A43E626B5@ddddPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8";
> reply-type=original
>
> This can be tricky if the spindle has any steps or circlips between the
> bearings. This would require that the spindle be accomodated while pressing
> in the new bearings.
> I tried driving out the spindle on my ~1975 Viscount, and even after
> removing the external circlips from the spindle I could not budge the
> spindle with a hammer.
> I notice that the bearings are fitted flush with the ends of the bb shell,
> so a flat, rigid surface, as on the end of a thick-walled pipe(?), should
> also contact the end of the bb shell as the outer race of the bearing
> arrives flush with the end of the shell. I would want to use metal here.
>
> One must first remove the spindle and bearings, and the end of the bb shell
> will need to be supported while the bearing is driven out through a
> (minimally) 35mm hole in the support. Such a support "mandrel" will need to
> be fabricated lest one is willing to hammer the spindle/bearings with impact
> loads transmitted through the entire frame. I actually gave up on mine and
> continue riding it even though the spindle is a bit too-far offset for my
> liking. The bearings themselves are rather oversized for the application,
> even surviving my hammering, so may outlast the frame! They can be
> re-greased by prying off the seals with a razor blade or pick.
>
> I've seen the toolkit for servicing Klein BB's, which consists of a tubular,
> stepped mandrel and threaded pulling and pressing hardware. Perhaps a Klein
> dealer could handle this job. I note that the bearings are standard and
> inexpensive.
>
> Now having two Viscounts, I would like to know how this job turns out.
>
> David Snyder
> Auburn, CA usa
>
>
> Dale Brown wrote:
>> Consider using a large vise... It allows you to apply gentle controlled
>> pressure very evenly. To protect the bearing face (do one side at a time),
>> I would find a small piece of wood board placed between vise jaws and
>> parts. This set up helps but does not guarantee concentric inward movement
>> so you have to monitor the progress carefully. But it works!
>>
>
>> Paul Walkerwrote:
>> Hey. Any tips on pressing new bearings into Viscount / Lambert BB shells?
>> I
>> have a park headset press, and imagine that I need to find some pipe of
>> the
>> proper diameter to contact the outside of the bearings. Someone mentioned
>> using an arbor press, but I'm unfamiliar with this type of press.
>> Thoughts?
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 18:17:02 -0500
> From: "John Hurley" <JHurley@jdabrams.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] USA only Ebay sales
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <249DDD9704676C49AE6169AE3D2D9F4E023924FE@Exchange-SVR>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I'll add my penny's worth.
>
> The vast majority of the on-topic bike goodies we know and love
> originated outside the USA. Cycling, as we know it, is a European
> sport. This being the case, I've been surprised how little I sell
> outside the USA. I expected a much bigger international market, but 80
> percent of my sales have been domestic, and only 20 percent
> international. My domestic market is four times bigger than from the
> rest of the world combined.
>
> Before I checked, I would have said my international sales were even
> smaller. Maybe some sellers just feel the real market is in the USA, so
> why bother selling foreign? I don't look at it that way myself; I'm
> glad to have the extra 20 percent.
>
> Why isn't the foreign market larger? I suppose either they don't need
> to buy from us because they can get the good stuff locally, or Americans
> just spend more freely or have deeper pockets. Probably what is
> happening now is a bike boom echo as Americans collect in later years
> what they valued in their youth.
>
> Risk: At first I couldn't understand eBay shoving all the risk off on
> the seller, but it finally dawned on me (duh) that the party who stands
> to make a profit is the logical one to accept a greater share of the
> risk.
>
> As for the income tax, this sounds like bad news for eBay. One more
> reason not to use eBay, and seek alternate outlets. One more step
> toward converting eBay into another Amazon.
>
> John Hurley
> Austin, Texas, USA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 18:19:58 -0500
> From: "John Hurley" <JHurley@jdabrams.com>
> Subject: [CR] NOS Ambrosio clincher rims
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <249DDD9704676C49AE6169AE3D2D9F4E023924FF@Exchange-SVR>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I have an eBay listing out for a sort-of utilitarian pair of NOS
> Ambrosio rims: 230469845084. Any comments on these rims would be
> welcome.
>
> John Hurley
> Austin, Texas, USA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 19:32:55 -0400
> From: "Roman Stankus" <rstankus@mindspring.com>
> Subject: [CR] FW: FS: Pog frame d663 61cm - follow up info
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <E1O9Rbp-0001PW-Jl@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> I got a few questions about the sizing of the frame:
>
> The top tube is right at or slightly over 58.5cm c-c
> The seat tube is sized 61 cm c-t
> The rear dropouts are spaced 126mm
>
> Sorry for the oversight.
>
> Roman L Stankus
> Atlanta, Georgia USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Roman Stankus
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:45 PM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR] FS: Pog frame d663 61cm
>
> I am offering the following frame for sale - pictures can be seen on my
> webshots site @ http://community.webshots.com/
>
> This bike comes with a story. When I got back into cycling and vintage bikes
> in 2003, I had the good fortune to find this frame for sale on ebay and to
> win it. I rode this bike for about six months before being hit by a car in
> an intersection. I was really shaken (and banged up) by the accident and I
> was very upset that the frame was damaged considerably. The front fork was
> bent, the front triangle was crunched - the rear triangle was fine. I'd
> really gotten comfortable riding that bike and missed riding it. The driver
> that hit me was at fault - so insurance paid for reapirs if I wanted to do
> that. After talking with Brian Baylis, I sent it off to him to make the
> repairs and to restore the bike to as close to original as possible. For
> reasons not entirely clear to me, it took several years for the project to
> come to completion. Well, in the meantime, I had been busy adding to my
> small collection and now had several other bikes that had become my everyday
> riders - mainly my mid/late 80's DeRosa Pro. When the bike came back, it was
> beautiful, but I never got around to building her back up and getting her
> back on the road. After several years as wall art, I'd love to find this
> bike a new home.
>
> It's hard to value this bike - it's not all original, at the same time, I
> know that the work done by Brian is of equal or better quality in every
> respect to the original. I think Brian made every effort to make his work
> relate to the original build quality so that the results look natural to the
> marque.
>
> Brian reused all the lugs as well as the unique fork blades and dropouts
> from the original frame. He used matching tubes and a matching fork crown
> and steerer. Pogs had a lot of different decals - the ones on the frame
> match the originals - some were made up custom from photos of the originals
> by SSSink(?). The color in the photos does not do justice to the actual
> "electric blue" that was a signature Pog and Colnago color of the time. The
> bike comes with a used NR bottom bracket and headset - both in good/very
> good condition. I have $1500 in this repair/restoration and I am asking for
> that (includes domestic shipping).
>
> This bike is from the '74/'75 timeframe. The bottom bracket markings and
> serial # (d663) can be seen in the photos. Please let me know if you have
> any questions about the frame or need any other information.
>
> Thanks for looking!
>
> Roman L Stankus
> Atlanta, Georgia USA
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 19:35:52 -0400
> From: "Tom Sanders" <tom@orderandchaos.com>
> Subject: [CR] USA only sales on E-Bay
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <00d001caebe2$897171d0$9c545570$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Another snag in the process is that some countries apparently stop and hold
> anything valued at over $1000 at customs. I sold some very rare and
> expensive parts to a CR list member in Oz a while back and he had to go
> through some process to get his stuff released. Not sure just what Ben had
> to do, but it held the process up for weeks.
>
> Tom Sanders
>
> Lansing, MI USA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 16:45:55 -0700 (PDT)
> From: EPL <lowiemanuel@yahoo.ca>
> Subject: [CR] tire pressure gauge sought
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Message-ID: <848103.57590.qm@web50502.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Can folks recommend a reliable tire pressure gauge for checking KOF tubulars?
>
> Most of the automotive gauges don't read past 100 psi, not enough for my tubular tires skinnier than 23-24mm.
>
> Digital o.k.!
>
> Emanuel Lowi
> Montreal, Quebec
> (where we love high pressure)
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 01:49:34 +0200
> From: Jean-Marie <jmbr@pt.lu>
> Subject: Re: [CR] USA only Ebay sales
> To: "John Hurley" <JHurley@jdabrams.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Message-ID: <5CBEEF61-50DF-4CB9-9CBA-10B1304DC973@pt.lu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> Hello to all,
>
> Living in Europe, I found spare parts in the USA and Australia.
> ( Small parts recently from list members right here).
> There was no problem sending the amount and receiving the bike parts.
>
> I've got to say that I use Ebay on very rare occasions. Mostly I
> communicate on Web Forums - over here in Europe, this works out fine,
> and sometimes ( I'm not the only person who thinks this way) I think,
> watching items on Ebay: they're mad. I'm talking about spare parts an
> prices paid for them, not absolutely high-level bikes or frames...
> although sometimes even these happen just to be over valued.
>
> Everything has its price, and older parts become rare. But there still
> is a lot of post-war stuff around, and even pre-war bikes or parts.
> Many of them "sleep" in barns or cellars ( I recently found 3 entire
> bikes this way). Most people are absolutely not interested in bikes
> over here, which is a good and bad thing at the same time.
>
> My small collection grows slowly, maybe also the way I do collect is a
> bit different from others. I look what comes up, and I work on what
> seems somehow interesting to me.
> Of course, if someone is only looking for absolutely rare and highest-
> level bikes, things are different. I don't, as I do not have the
> material possibility to do that.
> One exception: my new bike that's being build right now. But that's
> off-topic and a strictly personal dream I want to realize before
> being too old to ride it:-)
>
> All this to say that, yes: Ebay is a possibility. But it is not the
> only one.
> Living in Luxembourg, ( a very very small country) I can buy on Ebay,
> but I cannot sell on Ebay ( if I'd want to). It is a strange
> situation. The reason is very simple: Ebay-Luxembourg just does not
> exist.
> And there is no way to put whatever there to sell: after filling in
> the information, at the end: access refused / country unknown. Strange
> but true.
> It never was a problem. On the bike Forums, I exchange, buy or sell
> parts I need or don't, even frames. And it allways worked out fine, as
> one comes to know the people.
>
> Best regards ( and thanks to many people here, again. I do learn a
> lot just reading and following their links).
>
> Jean-Marie Biwer
> Basbellain, Luxembourg, Europe
>
>
> Le 5 mai 10 ? 01:17, John Hurley a ?crit :
>
>> I'll add my penny's worth.
>>
>> The vast majority of the on-topic bike goodies we know and love
>> originated outside the USA. Cycling, as we know it, is a European
>> sport. This being the case, I've been surprised how little I sell
>> outside the USA. I expected a much bigger international market, but
>> 80
>> percent of my sales have been domestic, and only 20 percent
>> international. My domestic market is four times bigger than from the
>> rest of the world combined.
>>
>> Before I checked, I would have said my international sales were even
>> smaller. Maybe some sellers just feel the real market is in the
>> USA, so
>> why bother selling foreign? I don't look at it that way myself; I'm
>> glad to have the extra 20 percent.
>>
>> Why isn't the foreign market larger? I suppose either they don't need
>> to buy from us because they can get the good stuff locally, or
>> Americans
>> just spend more freely or have deeper pockets. Probably what is
>> happening now is a bike boom echo as Americans collect in later years
>> what they valued in their youth.
>>
>> Risk: At first I couldn't understand eBay shoving all the risk off on
>> the seller, but it finally dawned on me (duh) that the party who
>> stands
>> to make a profit is the logical one to accept a greater share of the
>> risk.
>>
>> As for the income tax, this sounds like bad news for eBay. One more
>> reason not to use eBay, and seek alternate outlets. One more step
>> toward converting eBay into another Amazon.
>>
>> John Hurley
>> Austin, Texas, USA
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