Re: [CR] french/swiss bike 1970's help identifying? (repost with photo link)

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Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 12:07:29 -0700
From: "verktyg" <verktyg@aol.com>
To: Jonathan Pitkin <jonpit@yahoo.com>, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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Subject: Re: [CR] french/swiss bike 1970's help identifying? (repost with photo link)


Jon,

Focusing on components for identifying a mystery bike like yours is usually only helpful when they are all from the same period and appear to be original.

Your bike appears to be pieced together with top quality components that don't necessarily match, the Edco headset for example. Wheels are easy to replace so they are frequently red herrings.

I suggest focusing on the frame rather than the components. Pictures of the dropouts and tube ends would be helpful too.

The numbers in the Nervex bottom bracket shell are casting numbers. Look on the rear dropouts for any number stamped into them.

At first the bike screamed reworked, repainted Peugeot PX-10 but the Campy dropouts nixed that. The metric treads also ruled out Paramount.

The treatment on the seat and chainstay ends look just like my late 1960s Andre Bertin C37.

I suspect that it was a nice French or Swiss built late 60s or early 70s frame that someone added braze-ons and repainted. Maybe a custom?

Chas. Colerich Oakland, CA USA

Jonathan Pitkin wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/2f6gcdg
> This bike has NR components, Nervex lugs, Cinelli bars/stem. Garner's Bikeshop Redwood City, CA sticker on clincher wheels. French BB-Not sure if fixed cup is R or L (will check). Long serial number 14 digits? Can't read because of repaint. Mondia has been suggested but the serial number seems too long. The braze on cable guides seem unusual for most french bikes (peugeot,gitane, motobecane etc.)
> Thanks for the help, Jon PitkinSan Francisco, CAUSA