Re: [CR] Don't use those Normandy Hubs...

(Example: Framebuilding:Restoration)

From: "kevin sayles" <kevinsayles@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "Peter Rogers" <pjrogers@rogers.com>, <hmsachs@verizon.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 08:55:14 +0100
Subject: Re: [CR] Don't use those Normandy Hubs...


Hi Peter, Harvey

Whilst I can't offer any insight into Normandy hubs......maybe you might find a Campag 'Gran Sport' [circa 1975] hub of interest in that it shares the same flange configuration as the Normandy hubs in question.

Like a 'piste' hub the offside bearings are 'inboard' of the flange, my hub is a 40 hole and mated to a MA40 clincher and was/is the intended wheel for the 'Le Eroica'....if I ever get my act together to ride it?

Pics of the hub can be found on my flickr pages.......as is some pics of another Bi-laminated frame I made for a good friend who recently painted it himself.....not so surprising as he's a very clever chap who teaches vintage car restoration.......

Cheers
Kevin Sayles
Bridgwater Somerset UK
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevin_sayles_bikes/3204355426/in/set-72157622838096615/


----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Rogers
To: hmsachs@verizon.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: [CR] Don't use those Normandy Hubs...



> Hi Harvey,
> Many thanks for the head-up.
> I'll be interested if you have a later version of the same hub for sale.
> I only just noticed how far out the left flange is before I read your
> email, but I though nothing of it.
> I wonder if modern, slightly thicker gauge spokes, would cope with the
> stress.
> Anyway, many thanks again.
> All the best,
> Peter Rogers
>
> Barrie, Ontario, Canada
>
>
> From: hmsachs@verizon.net
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:40 PM
> To: pjrogers@rogers.com ; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Don't use those Normandy Hubs...
>
>
> My first J.C. Higgins, dated about 1960 or '61 (Campag Gran Sport) came
> with these hubs, and the rear has a nasty defect. In Peter's picture,
> notice the position of the left flange. It is almost as far to the left as
> possible. This leads to a super-dished wheel, and they are incredibly
> efficient at popping the overstressed right side spokes.
>
> I suspect that this configuration was a relict from early 3- and 4-speed
> versions, where the dish would have been less extreme. I have a pair of
> the slightly later hubs, which look identical, but the left flange is
> moved inboard. Of course, on that bike, the spokes don't break, since it
> is the closest thing I have to a wall-art decoration; I haven't ridden it
> in a couple of years.
>
> your mileage may vary.
> harvey sachs
> mcLean va
> Peter, ask me next week if I have a spare of the slightly later ones...
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Peter Rogers asked about the age of some Normandy HF hubs, illustrated at
> http://petersclassicwheels.blogspot.com/.:
> I have a set of large flange Normandy hubs with round holes and Q/R axles.
> They differ from Normandy Luxe hubs which have elongated holes in the
> flanges.
> Does anyone know when these particular style of hubs were manufactured?
> I understand that they may date back as early as the 1950's.
> Any help will be much appreciated.