[CR] eBay 1969 Colnago - Suspicious bidding games

(Example: Framebuilders:Pino Morroni)

Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:58:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Kevin Kruger" <ktk1_7_0_2_8@yahoo.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, verktyg@aol.com
Subject: [CR] eBay 1969 Colnago - Suspicious bidding games


Charles, Just curious how you were able to identify the bidder you cite since the identity is concealed???

Appreciate knowing the ID on my end so I can also check it out.

I already asked eBay to take a look at this auction prior to posting my comments on the CR list.

Regards, Kevin Kruger - Grantville, PA USA

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Archive-URL: http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=classicrendezvous.11007.0655.eml Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:03:49 -0700 From: verktyg <verktyg(AT)aol.com> Subject: Re: [CR] eBay 1969 Colnago - Suspicious bidding games

Kevin,

The suspicious bidder placed 15 bids on this bike. I always check the bid history when an auction doesn't look right to me. The bidder placed 47 bids for 6 items in the last 30 days of which 31% are with this seller. He also has 2 bid retractions during the past 30 days.

Have you ever tried to do a bid retraction? When I see a lot of them from one bidder I stop bidding!

This sounds like an auction that should be reported to eBay because of the manipulations of the seller.

Chas. Colerich Oakland, CA USA

Kevin Kruger wrote:
> Sure most of you who search eBay found the restored 1969 Colnago Super.
>
> First appeared with a BIN/Best Offer option, and I submitted an offer, only to
> have the seller reduce the first BIN price, never respond to my offer, then to
> close the auction down.
>
> The bike reappeared on a non-reserve auction, and I placed my bid, only to have
> someone place bid(s) until they were the high bidder, and then he/she canceled
> the bid. Now the seller has canceled my bid, stating the reason being the
> disclosure of my high bid by the dishonest "bidder" who canceled his bid after
> uncovering my high bid.
>
> Asked the seller to explain, but this whole auction has left me too suspicious
> to even want to consider bidding on it again (was prepared to adjust the bid
> upward closer to the end of the auction).
>
> Another reason for being upset with eBay's policy to hide bidder IDs. Just
> makes it easy to play games with an auction from both a bidder's and seller's
> perspective.
>
> In case you didn't see the auction, here's the address (item #110559405799)
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>
> Sorry if this bike has been discussed, but I just returned home from being away
> from my computer for nearly a week.
>
> Regards,
> Kevin Kruger - Grantville, PA USA