Re: [CR] Hetchins Vade Mecum Track Bike - Sold

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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:47:17 -0700
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Subject: Re: [CR] Hetchins Vade Mecum Track Bike - Sold

Thank you Charles for posting my Craigs List Ad on the CR List. The bike has sold to a member of the list. Al Van Varick Hemet, CA & Tucson, AZ. USA

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Today's Topics:

1. Motobecane mixte for sale (Richard G. Elmendorf) 2. Ultra sonic cleaners. (J R) 3. Motobecane Mixte (Richard G. Elmendorf) 4. Hetchins Track Bike Full Campagnolo 1969 Vintage 535mm San Diego Craigslist July 2010 (Charles Nighbor) 5. Maurizio/Agnetti Info Sought (Matthew 'Devotion' Bowne) 6. Re: Motobecane Mixte (mitch harris) 7. Re: Motobecane Mixte ( 8. 6 Day bike rider (Bianca Pratorius) 9. Re: Motobecane Mixte (mitch harris) 10. Re: Ultrasonic cleaner results and report ( 11. Re: Ultrasonics (Jay Dubiel) 12. WTB: Huret Success RD Small Parts (Sean Flores) 13. Eddy Merckx team track bike, and Campagnolo pista parts for sale. (starmichael bowman) 14. Re: Motobecane Mixte (Putman, Clyde)


Message: 1 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:06:28 -0600 From: "Richard G. Elmendorf" <> Subject: [CR] Motobecane mixte for sale To: "" <> Message-ID: <> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

This is my wife's late 1970's bike. It never fit her well, and so has seen very little use.

Details: -Motobecane Grand Touring -Vitus tubing -19" frame -excellent condition (has an aftermarket fork) -I have overhauled all the bearings, replaced cables and housing -new Panaracer Pasela tires (27 x 1 1/4") -pictures available on request

Asking $250 plus shipping (I will box it carefully).


Dick Elmendorf Longmont, CO, USA


Message: 2 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:24:55 -0400 From: J R <> Subject: [CR] Ultra sonic cleaners. To: <> Message-ID: <COL107-W473887AAA89CA15B04E522A3A80@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I have small one from Harbor frieght and it owrks well. I use tap water and Dawn Direct dish soap. In regards to Simple Green and any type of citrus based cleaner....its true and its printed on the label. If you soak aluminum parts in either the aluminum will become discolored. Its OK for cleaning and immediate rinsing but not soaking.

Jim Ruggier Tampa, FL USA


Message: 3 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:38:04 -0600 From: "Richard G. Elmendorf" <> Subject: [CR] Motobecane Mixte To: "" <> Message-ID: <> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I have posted pictures of the bike at


Dick Elmendorf Longmont, CO, USA


Message: 4 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:47:13 -0700 From: "Charles Nighbor" <> Subject: [CR] Hetchins Track Bike Full Campagnolo 1969 Vintage 535mm San Diego Craigslist July 2010 To: <> Message-ID: <D085436437284712929FAE8C190BC1AC@gateway2v8e13w> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

''This is a 1969 Hetchins Vade Mecum VM1 TRACK Bike. With the original paint and decals and it is in excellent condition. It has has a 21" (53.5cm) seat tube measured center-to-top and a 21" top tube. The wheelbase is 37 1/2". This is a very agressive design intended for track use. The components are a full Campagnolo Nuovo Record Track Gruppo with 165 mm cranks. This bike is equipped with an Inch Pitch drive train (very cool). A 24 T, 151 B.C.D. chainring and an 8 T cog and an inch pitch Regina "block" chain. That's the equivelent of 48 x 16. The seat is a Brooks Professional that dates to 1965 that has a good patina and the correct shape. The Bars are Cinelli Steel Campeone Del Mondo in 38 cm and the stem is a 95 mm Baged Steel Cinelli. It's just about perfect and that includes the paint and decals. Please look at the pictures I'm sure that you will like what you see. $2100 will do it Contact Al 520-429-7456 Cell'' Enjoy not seller Charles Nighbor walnut creek, CA USA


Message: 5 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:49:10 -0400 From: Matthew 'Devotion' Bowne <> Subject: [CR] Maurizio/Agnetti Info Sought To: CR discussion list <> Message-ID: <SNT125-W127F367CBC30087332F91F5A80@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

A buddy of mine just picked up a 70's Italian roadie marked "Maurizio". A List archive search had one mention of a bike badged as Maurizio but built by Agnetti. Anyone have any further info on either this marque or this builder? Any help appreciated. Muchas Gracias, Matthew Bowne Brooklyn, new York


Message: 6 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:27:54 -0600 From: mitch harris <> Subject: Re: [CR] Motobecane Mixte To: "Richard G. Elmendorf" <> Cc: "" <> Message-ID: <> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Interesting drop tube that I haven't seen before. Halfway between the usual twin tube method and the Herse single tube mixte method.

Mitch Harris Little Rock Canyon, Utah, usa

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Richard G. Elmendorf <>wrote:
> I have posted pictures of the bike at
> Thanks,
> Dick Elmendorf
> Longmont, CO, USA

Subject: [CR] Eddy Merckx team track bike, and Campagnolo pista parts for sale. To: Message-ID: <> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi again all, It has been a while since i posted, and last time i promised to let everyone know how UBI's frame building class was. I promise i will get to that, but first i've been buying everything cool i see on craigslist and ran out of money to work on collecting some used frame jigs and cutting/facing tools to start building myself and some friends some hot KOF bikes! so back on the chopping block goes my nice stash! I am also open to trades for frame building jigs, parts, tools and the like. also if you know of anyone with some old jigs sitting around in the Portland area spread the word that I'm looking. Thanks what i have for sale is: one Eddy Merckx team track bike, from the sticker on the fork steer tube i believe it to be a 1983 bike. It is 57x56 was rumored to have been raced in New York for most of its life (passed down through three racers hands, the last sold the bike to me), and it has two layers of bad (read, cheap and chipping), paint jobs sitting over the original. there is only one dent i have been able to find and it is so tiny you have to feel for it while twisting the bike in the light to see it. it is the standard track bike dent on the tt, probably form the handle bars swinging around. I bought the bike as a frame and fork, and have put together a full Campagnolo Super Record track group for it, the stem is a perfect new logo Cinelli 2A in 130, with Cinelli new logo pista bars. the head set is SR alloy with steal inserts and brand new Phil grease with grade 25 bearings. the Hubs are SR pista 36 hole to what were NOS Grey Mavic Ma3's (never had a brake on them and look showroom perfect, almost no miles on them). the seat post is iether the rare aero SR, or C-Record aero in 27.2 (the seat post has a hole drilled in it under the minimum line, but is very nice other than that). the saddle is a brown buffalo unicanitor in good rider condition with all logos still clearly visible. The cranks are both 167.5 pista, but one is date code 82 and the other date code 83. 50 tooth SR chainring 1/8, and pista chainring bolts. the peddals are black with scuffed up plastic Campagnolo caps (the pedals are perfect and i think someone did a dust cap swap before selling them to me. The cages were, untill installed, NIB steal Campagnolo M with the toe tab (i will also include the box). the straps were also NOS Eddy Merckx, but the glue didn't hold and they are separating. the rims are clinchers and the tires are just some mixed matched road tiers i had sitting around, 700x23 and they just fit! the only other not correct part is the Euro Asia 19 tooth cog also 1/8. if you have any question about the bike or would like to see pics or come test ride it feel free to email me for my number or to have me send pics. I am asking 2,200 for the bike plus shipping.

Next up i have a Campagnolo "No" Record rear track wheel laced to a Velocity rim. the last owner had NOS races and cones installed, and i have the old ones to prove it (included in the sale). I'm asking $200 for the wheel. it also has a non Campagnolo lock ring and I'm not sure about the track nuts, i mean they're there but not sure if they are the correct ones.

I also have a NIB set of record pista hubs in 28 hole with correct nuts and lock ring. $300

all prices are plus actual shipping, paypal is fine too. please email if you have any questions, and i promise to get some pics of my first hand built bike up soon! I built it super KOF (to the dismay of the teachers at bike school!) I have collected a very nice rider Nuovo triple group, Phil hubs and bb, and Mafac cantis! thanks again for reading my post. and please spread the word about used frame and fork jigs. thanks

StarMichael Bowman Portland OR USA


Message: 14 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:50:44 -0500 From: "Putman, Clyde" <> Subject: Re: [CR] Motobecane Mixte To: "" <>, mitch harris <> Cc: "" <> Message-ID: <> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

That is the twin to the bike my mom put TONS of miles on back when I was in high school. I did not keep good track, I just knew that she rode it for weekend group rides, and then during the week she mostly rode it instead of taking the car for local errands. I maintained it, but did not watch is closely. (I had school, music programs, fantasies about being a racer, and a job at a bike shop, so mom's bike ended up low on the list) I do remember once she complained that it peddled funny. I determined that the problem was that she had worn the drivetrain so much that the FW teeth were almost missing!

I also sold a bunch of those and customers liked them a lot.

Thanks for the memories!

-Clyde (back in the day) Putman
Dallas, TX, USA, Earth