Re: [CR] Scheeren v. Weinmann balsa-filled rims.

Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:10 AM Subject: Re: [CR] Scheeren v. Weinmann balsa-filled rims.

> Hello List Members,
> I will post some pictures of the Scheeren Labels sometime after the sun
> comes up tomorrow.
> Al Van Varick
> Hemet, Ca, USA
>
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> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:31 PM
> To: hsachs@alumni.rice.edu; Classic Rendezvous; alvan519@cox.net
> Subject: Re: [CR] Scheeren v. Weinmann balsa-filled rims.
>
>
> Harvey, et al:
> Scheeren was making the alloy rims before the war, and maybe in time for
> the
> '36 games?
> The Scheeren folks were getting older and sold their company to Weinmann,
> can't recall that date and don't know if W. made the Scheeren stuff until
> it
> wasn't selling enuf and when W. took S. over.
> I have some wheels with the old W. decal orange and W going thru the
> middle
> if it's in my minds eye.
> I don't recall when it was but Weinmann didn't make any sewup rims for
> some
> years in but Scheerens were very prevalent.
> Weinmann made rims again after this short layoff and that nice similar to
> Fiamme shape knurl on the side rim was made for the '66 world's in
> Germany.
> The wood filled, actually a small block, made by Weinmann may have been
> made
> on the Scheeren machines.
> The shape was similar and are an early '50's vintage +
> Altenburger also made a block filled rim in the '50's that was somewhat
> flatter on top and sides.
> I had one on my mtorpace bike so it was plenty strong.
> There was also the Japanese rim with a plastic block.
> I think the Weltmeister Scheeren had balsa and a thinner aluminum, The
> Scheeren Standard I think had a sorta plywood block.
> Back in the late '40's transition experiment timeframe, Weinmann made
> alloy
> cranks with taper/cotter pin and also aluminum sprockets to match.
> I even had a pair of Weinmann sunglasses made with a beautiful deep
> anodized
> frame.
> I gave those items to old collector friends some 25 years ago, don't got
> no
> pics.
> Ted Ernst
> Palos Verdes Estates
> CA USA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harvey Sachs" <hmsachs@verizon.net>
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>;
> <alvan519@cox.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 5:50 PM
> Subject: [CR] Scheeren v. Weinmann balsa-filled rims.
>
>
>> Some time ago, Al Van Varick posted a for sale notice here. He wrote:
>> "I have available to the CR List Members a NOS pair of Scheeren Standard
>> sew-up rims in 32 drilling. These are the famous balsa wood filled rims
>> from the early 1970?s. The Standards are not quite as light as the ultra
>> ultra light Weltmiester rims also made by Scheeren and are
>> therefore more useable. Pictures will be available when the weather
>> clears in sunny SOCAL. $240 will do it."
>>
>> I thought I had an identical pair in my garage, but I don't. Mine are
>> labeled "Weinmann" with no model indication that I can find. Is this a
>> case of two labels but one original manufacturer, or did Weinmann and
>> Scheeren both make the wood-filled rims? Were there other sources for
>> these very light aluminum/balsa rims? I weighed one, at ~325 gm, which is
>> pretty light (I think the much later SuperChampion Medaille d'Or was
>> either 260 or 290, for reference).
>>
>> Does anyone know how they were made? I've sort of assumed that the balsa
>> was cut into segments, and did little more than maintain the profile of
>> the rim section when it was rolled into a hoop. But, that is just a
>> guess.
>> I am reasonably certain that balsa doesn't grow in hoops. :-)
>>
>>
>> thanks!
>> harvey sachs
>> mcLean va