PS..about prices for those frames I just posted.
What I do know is that you could buy *SEVERAL *of these for less than the price of that *ONE* scaley chrome Rene Herse with the dent in the top-tube that finished a few hours ago on French eBay..and you wouldn't be needing to remortgage the house to pay for the refinishing costs that the Herse will need.
Just a thought
Norris Lockley
Settle UK