Re: [CR] [Frame] How was Philippe's Adjustable Stem Made?

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:25:05 -0700
To: "davebohm" <davebohm@cox.net>, "'Amir Avitzur'" <avitzur@013.net>, "'framebuilders list'" <framebuilders@phred.org>
From: "Jan Heine" <heine94@earthlink.net>
Cc: 'Classicrendezvous' <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR] [Frame] How was Philippe's Adjustable Stem Made?

You are right - the Herse Demontable didn't have a typical Herse stem, but a modified Philippe stem that could be removed with a quick release. The standard Herse stem was machined and filed from aluminum...

Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly 2116 Western Ave. Seattle WA 98121 http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com

At 5:12 PM -0700 4/20/10, davebohm wrote:
>Naw, I misunderstood....I flipped flop my French builders.
>
>But I did modify/fix a Rene Herse stem from a 1975 demountable and it was
>definitely fillet brazed.
>
>Dave Bohm
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jan Heine [mailto:heine94@earthlink.net]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 4:54
>To: davebohm; 'Amir Avitzur'; 'framebuilders list'
>Cc: 'Classicrendezvous'
>Subject: RE: [Frame] [CR] How was Philippe's Adjustable Stem Made?
>
>At 2:36 PM -0700 4/20/10, davebohm wrote:
>
>>I have only repaired one Rene Herse stem and interestingly enough it was
>>fillet brazed but the filler metal was very copper in color compared to
>what
>>we typically use today.
>
>You mean "Alex Singer" stem. Since Roland Csuka died, the Singer
>stems have been fillet-brazed. So yours probably was a post-1994 stem.
>
>Jan Heine
>Editor
>Bicycle Quarterly
>2116 Western Ave.
>Seattle WA 98121
>http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com