I seem to recall an article from somewhere (possibly Bicycling magazine?) in the early 80s about Victory/Triomphe. IIRC, after the earlier Valentino, this supposedly was Campy's venture into non-pro peleton components to compete with the Japanese (Shimano/Suntour/Sugino) stuff.
Steve Whitting
Prairieville, Louisiana USA
Website at http://ciocc-cat.angelfire.com/
From: Doug Van Cleve <dvancleve@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [CR] Ebay surprise (to me) To: "Steve Whitting" <ciocc_cat@yahoo.com> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, "Bianca Pratorius" <biankita@comcast.net> Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 8:41 PM
Victory was similar to but IMHO much nicer than Triomphe.
Doug Van Cleve Chandler, AZ USA
P.S. I seem to recall reading some info here, maybe a few year ago, that indicated that Victory and Triomphe might have at least showed up at the big bike shows before the cutoff for this list...
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Steve Whitting <ciocc_cat@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think that there is a perception regarding Triomphe that it wasn't a "top-of-the-line" pro peleton gruppo like Record, Nuovo Record or Super Record were in their day. That probably has something to do with why Triomphe doesn't sell as well. JMHO.
Steve Whitting
Prairieville, Louisiana USA
Website at http://ciocc-cat.angelfire.com/
From: Bianca Pratorius <biankita@comcast.net>
Subject: [CR] Ebay surprise (to me)
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 7:15 AM
Apparently, ebayers have the same bias that Classic Rendezvous listmembers have. I have been selling off oodles of my collectable small parts recently and everything has sold at fair to good prices but hardly any one is watching or bidding on my Triumph Campy stuff. Technically, this iteration of Campy is geometrically and mechanically traditional Campy but it's perceived value is worthless. Dale has twisted the entire population to his way of thinking. I think he owes me at least the $10 I was asking to clear this Triumph Front Derailleur out of my house. At least the Triumph rear sold for $15. Oh well, I guess I don't like low end, post classic equipment either.
Garth Libre in Miami Florida USA